Spimothy Leary
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does that include a lot of breaks ?
otherwise your fuel economy is stupendous ! I have about a 45 mile range on mine
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does that include a lot of breaks ?
otherwise your fuel economy is stupendous ! I have about a 45 mile range on mine
Spimothy Leary
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well, if you have the 9 gallon tank, i can assure you the range is under 50 miles
i try to keep all my ride plans either a) Max of 20 miles each way, or I have to pack spare fuel on the back of my buddy's 4 stroke.
its a major PITA to limit my ride range, but unfortunately its part of the deal with the x4 hull, i'll eventually change to the 12 gallon tank but I don't think I'm going to do a tear down on my motor this winter, (and the motor has to come out for the fuel tank conversion) the weather has been warm so i've only missed maybe 2 weekends this year due to cold.
Spimothy Leary
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yes its possible, its been done many many times, it floats fine with the extra 3 gallons, you won't really notice the difference. I have a buddy with the 12 gal tank AND a 951 in there (which is heavier as well) and it rides fine, i guess maybe it sits just a tad lower than mine but only for the first 12 miles or so
in my experience it has no impact on the quality of the ride what so ever.edit: note: i'm not sure if its the GTS tank or what, somebody else may chime in on that.
speedbuggy67
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porkroll... i figure those ticey shoal runs are gonna require more fuel esp with your setup, i'd imagine that drinks more then a stocker. I thought about removing the stock purple containers in the "trunk" and putting a 2.5 gal gas can in there for the trips much easier then adding a bigger tank and put a few lock and lock containers in for your stuff that you want to stay dry. I might add a large lock and lock under the "trunk" for storage. Yes its added weight but what are the other options.... I hope your right with the evo comment... i look forward to the x4 787 performance as i haven't ridden it yet. ( i too have awd turbo power at home...)
Scott
Scott
Actually it's a great idea. While I'm not so worried about fuel, when I go for long rides I just take another ski. I don't think the extra weight in the nose will hurt a thing, actually I think the X4 needs extra weight in the nose anyway. Even if it makes the ski a little nose heavy you can adjust with the VTS or trim tabs.
A word of caution, you will still need to carry a fire extinguisher, it's the law.
Lou
A word of caution, you will still need to carry a fire extinguisher, it's the law.
Lou
Scott,
Just to give you the idea of approximate range. Leaving from the end of the Bever Creek(Midstreams) I can make a round trip to SeaSide, mess around jumping boat wakes and WOT pulls for about an additional 45 minutes, leave Midstreams again.. Screw around another 15 minutes and make my way over to the launch ramp in Point. I had a little over a 1/4 of a tank left after that.
I like the idea of mounting a 2.5 gallon in the front. That may be happening soon haha. I can not wait for the Shoul!
Just to give you the idea of approximate range. Leaving from the end of the Bever Creek(Midstreams) I can make a round trip to SeaSide, mess around jumping boat wakes and WOT pulls for about an additional 45 minutes, leave Midstreams again.. Screw around another 15 minutes and make my way over to the launch ramp in Point. I had a little over a 1/4 of a tank left after that.
I like the idea of mounting a 2.5 gallon in the front. That may be happening soon haha. I can not wait for the Shoul!
I just finished de-winterizing my 96XP last night. My wife said, you really like working on your SeaDoo's, of course I said yes. She said why don't you get a project ski? There just happens to be a 95XP 717 for sale on craigs list for $500.00. Cosmetically great but needs motor work and includes the trailer, I called the guy he said he would take $350.00 so that's my next project.
Lou
Lou
I still can't figure out how to post an actual picture in the thread haha. I just created a Flickr account so I could share some pictures of my X4. Any and all comments are welcome! Suggestions as well
http://http://www.flickr.com/photos/porkroll1/
If for some reason the link doesn't work, LMK. First time using Flickr
-Jason
http://http://www.flickr.com/photos/porkroll1/
If for some reason the link doesn't work, LMK. First time using Flickr
-Jason
Pictures of my X4. Any comments or suggestions are welcome! Let me know what you think. I still can't figure out how to post a picture in the thread lol, so please copy and paste the Flickr link below.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/porkroll1/
-Jason
http://www.flickr.com/photos/porkroll1/
-Jason
IDoSeaDoo
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That looks nice. I'm jealous: both of my X4's need work. I had a needle bearing fall into the motor when I did a top end job. Chewed itself up on first fire-up. My other is my fast project ski, but I also need to pull the motor and permanently fix my custom-made balance-shaft drain. Lots of work before I enjoy either of my babies.
speedbuggy67
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there are some GREAT waves around NJ.... barneget inlet or just the bay can be pretty good, look forward to it. Porkroll sharp looking ski, great mod list as well. An xo probably will be on my to-do list but i have to atleast try the xp out first. Good reminder of the extinguisher when i got my 96xp it didn't have one. Hydroturf or blacktip mats i've been thinking about too.... Minnetonka has what appears to be ankle guards, those look like a great investment, seems on every waverunner i've ridden my ankles get beatup. Minnetonka where did you get them?
Scott
Scott
They are chunks of firm foam from Hydroturf...lifter wedges I think they are called.
I LOVE them...I have them stuck slightly higher than the ball on my ankle so I can grip the ski with my ankles.
Pictures are in on my profile.
I LOVE them...I have them stuck slightly higher than the ball on my ankle so I can grip the ski with my ankles.
Pictures are in on my profile.
Spimothy Leary
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nice ski, and when you attach it to the list of mods, its a slam dunk purchase and a fantastic price, i would have bought that w/o hesitation assuming it runs & has compression...
i'm not a huge fan of the mirrored hood vs single gauge, but for now, just leave it alone, it looks good.
always keep in mind with a new purchase that something could be lingering inside, that can cause some serious problems pretty quickly, so i'd love to suggest taking the motor apart and do a full inspection down to the crank, but unless you do it yourself, and have the tools, etc, a teardown and inspect isn't cheap.
With that said: unless your really sure this is clean on the inside, I mean really sure, a solid crank no bearing issues, all the water passages are clear and not full of sand, etc, then there is always a risk,
if everything is kosher, the only thing you lose is a couple weekends and a gasket set.
even a little weak link like a crank bearing that can be fixed or just greased can start a nasty chain reaction.
I bought a similar deal and had it NOT been torn down, it wouldn't have lasted 4 hours on the water, it was absolutely disgusting inside ! An engine was saved simply by cleaning it up, taking a good look at the crank, and putting it back together spotless with the only cost being a gasket set and a couple of six packs. (well I did lose a 13mm socket and I still haven't found that dam thing !)
so now that this is YOUR ski, it might be a dam good idea to do a solid once over.
past that, enjoy the ski, hit the throttle hard, harass boat wakes, dodge the poo poo and have a blast !
the fuel issue, well thats what you get with the xp, so, arrange your rides around your range (its not that hard)
the best spare fuel issue (besides a buddy with a cooler/gas rack on his 4 stroke) is the 12 gallon tank, its a PITA but it really does pretty much solve all the fuel issues, its only 3 gallons but you get 33% more fuel ! you can easily pack 1gal in the trunk with the purple bins intact, or a 2.5 (prolly a 3.5) if you remove the purple jugs.
or just do what most of us do, and make a bunch of 35 mile runs, drop 5 gallons in, and head out, rinse and repeat.
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I may have some big mirrorless hood news shortly!!! I wont post anything till I work out the deal, but BRAND NEW...BLACK PLASTIC single gauge and even possibly two gauge mirrorless hoods maybe available in the near future!! I'll post here once its a done deal!
Spimothy Leary
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sure would simplify things ! I mean seriously it would !
IDoSeaDoo
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I think the Dual Mirrors make it look better, more proportioned. Plus, the law around here is you have to have either a person watching, or mirrors if you're going to tow someone behind you, and we all know the X4 787 is plenty capable of that. I plug skiers out of the water like they're not even there Haven't tried the tube yet, that may get dangerous :thumbsup:
Spimothy Leary
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interesting Tonka
it never occurred to me to use a scrap or two of turf in that particular spot. Actually I get a rash (and its usually on my left side) on the top of my calf from the bottom of the seat itself, never really had an ankle issue, but I do have a few pieces of turf that can be placed there. Did you consider using something other than the raised turf you had there ?
(after looking at your pic, as an alternative, what I was thinking was some of the smooth turf like some of the smooth gunwhale matting that comes on yamaha's, smooth and tacky)
did you consider options or just used what you had handy.
Spimothy Leary
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its different in florida (at least i'm 95% sure it is), you have to have a spotter anyway, plus the tuber, so in theory ONLY a 3 seater pwc can pull a tuber. I've pulled a tube on my XL yamaha, but doing it on an xp would be somewhat complicated since the dam hull is so tippy with two people on it, i've never bothered trying. (thats what the boat is for
)I very much prefer the mirrorless hood vs the mirrored, but everybody has their own tastes. The mirrored hood only stayed on my ski long enough for the box to arrive from Orlando with my replacement hood
then I tossed it in the trash bin.
Its there more for me to hold onto the machine with my ankles...gives me more ability to manipulate the machine in the air. It really isnt for padding.
On the mirrorless hoods....I agree I think its the best way to set it apart from the rest of the pack. Love the look and I wont be pulling anything with my skis.
On the mirrorless hoods....I agree I think its the best way to set it apart from the rest of the pack. Love the look and I wont be pulling anything with my skis.
Spimothy Leary
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oh, manipulate in the air... ok, that's not a problem for me, i just hold on !
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