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Wich hose to crimp while getting towed? (951)

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In case of having to get towed can anyone explain better than the manual on which hose this is? Or better yet provide a pic? It's a 951 GSX-L
And what do you carry with you to crimp? Will a zip tie do it? Extra piece of rope?
Thanks ! Hopefully I'll never need to do it but I'd like to know to be safe
 
tturbonegro said:
In case of having to get towed can anyone explain better than the manual on which hose this is? Or better yet provide a pic? It's a 951 GSX-L
And what do you carry with you to crimp? Will a zip tie do it? Extra piece of rope?
Thanks ! Hopefully I'll never need to do it but I'd like to know to be safe
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no don't think any of those will work, they have hose pinchers you can buy (P/N 529 030 400). I just have a pair of what looks like vice grips with long flat smooth jaws that maybe I got at Harbor Freight.

I have a 787 and don't know if any of this is at all applicable to the 951. On the 787 there is a water control valve on top of the muffler that has 2 small hoses connected to it. The top small hose connects from the valve to the tuned pipe. The bottom small hose on the water control valve runs into a T. The back side of the T connects to the water supply hose from the impeller. The front side of the T connects to the hose that goes to water intake on the manifold on top of the engine. It is the inlet hose from the impeller that gets clamped between the impeller and the T.

Ironic that you ask because I was just reviewing that diagram this morning. And even better you may have saved my engine because I doubled checked my engine before answering you and discovered that my intake and output hoses on my manifold are reversed. I better give Doc Honda a holler ! Again you'll have to check if this description matches the 951 configuration.
 
You need to clamp the hose from the pump to the engine, I'm thinking its the one on the port (left) side, at the rear of the engine. On the engine its the one with the arrow pointing to the front.

I keep a spring clamp I bought at Harbor Freight in the ski. You need something that will pretty much close off the hose because the engine can become hydo-locked if much water gets past this point.

Lou
 
Thanks guys...I'll try and figure out what hose it is by your description and I'll have to stop by my local Habor Freight before my next ride...
Does it matter if your being towed at a fast or slow speed? Or is it a certain amount of time that can let the water in?
 
is this for all models?
I have a 95 SPX do I need to do this before I ever (hopefully never) get towed?
 
I am no expert on other models by any means, but the reason for needing to pinch the hose is to keep water from entering the intake in the pump area and flooding the engine under the force of towing (same scenario as turning off the engine before the water while running connected to a water hose) . This seems that it would be the case for any of the models with exception of the new closed loop systems.
 
That is correct, any SeaDoo with a 2-stroke engine.

Lou
 
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towing:

if you tow, above idle, what happens is the same thing as turning on your house water (hose) to the ski without having the ski running.

99.9% of boats use water to cool the exhaust system. if the engine is not running, water will be forced places it does not belong. if the ski is not run right after this, you could get water stuck in the engine.

Page 293 of 2001 shop manual:


Towing the Watercraft in Water
Special precautions should be taken when towing
a Sea-Doo watercraft in water.
Maximum recommended towing speed is 24 km/h
(15 MPH).
When towing your watercraft in water, pinch the
water supply hose from the jet pump housing to the
engine with a large Hose Pincher (P/N 529 032 500).

This will prevent the cooling system from filling
which may lead to water being injected into and
filling the exhaust system. Without the engine running
there isn’t any exhaust pressure to carry the
water out the exhaust outlet.
CAUTION: Failure to do this may result in damage
to the engine. If you must tow a stranded watercraft
in water and do not have a hose pincher
be sure to stay well below the maximum towing
speed of 24 km/h (15 MPH).
Snugly install the hose pincher on the water supply
hose as shown in the following illustrations.

CAUTION: When finished towing the watercraft,
the hose pincher must be removed before operating
it.

the photos are all in the manuals.
 
This is true, I had one guy ask me if he need to clamp the hose when he towed the boat on his trailer.

Lou
 
Ok got one of these...

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Now I think I know what hose but could be wrong...I'm gona post a pic and see if anyone can assure me...
 
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Ok hopefully someone can tell me wich one it is...

These 2 hoses go to the back of the hull...
The red arrow one red runs along the port (left) side..passed the battery and into the pipe...
The blue arrow one is hard to see where it goes ...I think it goes up toward behind the electric box and toward the starboard (right) side of the ski...I think...

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This is same area but backed out a little...the red arrow is the same hose that is the red arrow in pic above...

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The red hose goes toward the front of the ski and goes into the pipe here...

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But reading above about the hose off the T....I believe it could also be this hose (blue arrow) as well..? Possibly this hose goes around the back of the electric box and into the blue arrow hose in the pic two pictures up ^^ ? the end of this hose I can easily see (yellow arrow) goes into the motor ...it then goes into the T and then toward the back of the electric box..and then is kinda hard to get my hand back there to track....and this T set up and pic is from the starboard (right) side of the ski...

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So if anyone can tell me if these pics make any sence and if they know one if these is for sure the hose I would need to clamp I would greatly appreciate it...thanks !
 
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are my eyes deceiving me or is there a black hose sticking out the side of your battery in the 2nd picture? maybe a bad angle of your battery vent line?? all the EverStart batteries I have had (will never buy another, they suck) had a vertical nipple there for the vent line but I'm not seeing a nipple in the pic.

It would help to have a birds eye view of the whole hull but I believe the hose you are looking for to clamp is the one with the blue arrow in the first picture. Be good if someone can confirm that.
 
Just a bad angle on the pic...that line goes behind the battery not into it...the vent tube is on the other side of battery, not pictured...

So does the blue arrow hose in first pic go to that T and one goes down into the water box I believe that is? And then straight into the motor (yellow arrow)
 
tturbonegro said:
Just a bad angle on the pic...that line goes behind the battery not into it...the vent tube is on the other side of battery, not pictured...
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I was referring to the hose that looks like it has white writing on it just below the positive terminal that looks like it goes into your battery.


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So does the blue arrow hose in first pic go to that T and one goes down into the water box I believe that is? And then straight into the motor (yellow arrow)[/QUOTE]

On my ski, that hose goes to the T coming off the water regulator (that is the thing with the red cap in the upper left of your last pic) and then continues to the water intake port on the engine. If your hose routes the same way that is the one to clamp. (pretty sure anyway)
 
Ohhh ha...think it's jus the pic playing eye games...the clear hose is the battery vent...the black one with white writing I think it bends into somewhere else but in that pic it males it look like it's going into the side of the battery ha..weird
 
Here's a few more views...the red and blue arrows are representing the same hoses as the pics above...

The blue arrow on the right top of pic is where the "T" is ...
The blue arrow pointed at the motor is where that hose coming from the "T" goes into the motor...

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In this pic the red arrow at the bottom is the hose coming from the rear and the red arrow at the top shows where that hose goes into the pipe...
The blue arrow again shows where the other hose goes into the motor...

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And again one more view of the hose going into the motor and the hose going into the pipe...

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I have a seadoo dealer close by so I may just be better off stopping by there with the ski and ask them about it to be sure...
 
I'll confess I'm not familiar with 951's but I would say since the blue hose has a T in it that's the flush port. So it would be the hose marked with the red arrow. To be sure download the owner's and or service manual for your model.

Lou
 
I have the manual downloaded in PDF in my iBooks on iPad...I'll look, good idea thanks!!

What do you mean clean bildge award? The bottom of engine compartment being clean? I try to keep it clean..I wash it down, tilt it back, and air line and shop vac all the water out b4 I spray it down with the bombardier lube spray
 
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