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Dr Honda's Islandia Project. (Engine rebuild, and other stuff)
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Dr Honda
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Just a little update...
I've been sick, so I haven't had any time to work on the boat... but my Poppy Cover has showed up, and I also got my lifting eye/flywheel puller. Also... I decided to work on the boat my my house... so I'll bring my engine hoist home from the shop. If all goes well... I'll pull it out on Saturday.
Oh... I decided to verify that the puller would fit my flywheel, and while I was out there... I took a better look at the damage... and it looks like the hole is only in the back half of the engine block. The "Cylinder" side is OK. Who knows... I may be able to weld it up,and just change that rod. (fingers crossed)
I've been sick, so I haven't had any time to work on the boat... but my Poppy Cover has showed up, and I also got my lifting eye/flywheel puller. Also... I decided to work on the boat my my house... so I'll bring my engine hoist home from the shop. If all goes well... I'll pull it out on Saturday.
Oh... I decided to verify that the puller would fit my flywheel, and while I was out there... I took a better look at the damage... and it looks like the hole is only in the back half of the engine block. The "Cylinder" side is OK. Who knows... I may be able to weld it up,and just change that rod. (fingers crossed)
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Dr. Honda,
I have the exact same year/model/colors as yours. I have owned it for about 18 months and have had a blast with it. What's more funny, is that I also drove from PA to MI to purchase mine...
One question for you: Where are all the spark plugs located on the boat, and do you recommend replacing them yearly? I have heard both yes and no. What about oil filters?
The only problem that I had with my boat is when I let my father-in-law drive the boat with me on water skis last year. The only thing I told him was to not run over the tow rope - he ran over the tow rope and sucked it up through the grate and around the drive shaft! Needless to say we got towed in. Luckily I was able to get the boat back on the trailer and the grate off to cut the tow rope off from around the drive shaft.....what a nightmare. I have not let him forget about that since and makes for a good laugh now!
I have the exact same year/model/colors as yours. I have owned it for about 18 months and have had a blast with it. What's more funny, is that I also drove from PA to MI to purchase mine...
One question for you: Where are all the spark plugs located on the boat, and do you recommend replacing them yearly? I have heard both yes and no. What about oil filters?
The only problem that I had with my boat is when I let my father-in-law drive the boat with me on water skis last year. The only thing I told him was to not run over the tow rope - he ran over the tow rope and sucked it up through the grate and around the drive shaft! Needless to say we got towed in. Luckily I was able to get the boat back on the trailer and the grate off to cut the tow rope off from around the drive shaft.....what a nightmare. I have not let him forget about that since and makes for a good laugh now!
Dr Honda
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Hi Leo,
I'm a wiz on the Rotax engines... but I am new with the Merc's. So... I may not always have the answers. But in this case... I can help.
All 6 of your sparkplugs are on the rear side of the boat. So... if you open your deck lid... you will see them. The engine sits vertical, so there are 3 on the left, and 3 on the right. The are relatively easy to get to. You will need a 13/16" wrench to get them out.
Personally... I would recommend replacing them at least once a year. It will help keep the engine running proper. Also... I recommend keeping an extra set in the boat.
So far... I haven't dug into the oil system... so I'm not sure if there is an oil filter. There is a fuel filter, and a water separating filter that should be replaced in the spring. On that note... I recommend taking it out for one ride in the spring, before doing the "Tune-up." That way, you will purge out the fogging oil.
I'm a wiz on the Rotax engines... but I am new with the Merc's. So... I may not always have the answers. But in this case... I can help.
All 6 of your sparkplugs are on the rear side of the boat. So... if you open your deck lid... you will see them. The engine sits vertical, so there are 3 on the left, and 3 on the right. The are relatively easy to get to. You will need a 13/16" wrench to get them out.
Personally... I would recommend replacing them at least once a year. It will help keep the engine running proper. Also... I recommend keeping an extra set in the boat.
So far... I haven't dug into the oil system... so I'm not sure if there is an oil filter. There is a fuel filter, and a water separating filter that should be replaced in the spring. On that note... I recommend taking it out for one ride in the spring, before doing the "Tune-up." That way, you will purge out the fogging oil.
Racereddie
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So far... I haven't dug into the oil system... so I'm not sure if there is an oil filter.
If your engine is the 240 version with the alternator and electric oil pump you will find that there is a small inline directional filter right before the small oil reservoir on the port side of the engine.
From the manaul:
"Oil hose with BLUE stripe contains a directional filter which is designed to trap any
debris in the oil before the oil reaches the engine oil reservoir. The filter is marked with
an arrow denoting direction of flow of oil and should be installed accordingly. Should engine
oil reservoir oil level drop while remote oil tank oil level is normal, oil flow through
inline filter has been reduced by debris and filter must be replaced."
It appears that the non-alternator version (with small oil reservoir on front of engine) has a small filter screen on the suction tube of the main oil tank.
Eddie
If your engine is the 240 version with the alternator and electric oil pump you will find that there is a small inline directional filter right before the small oil reservoir on the port side of the engine.
From the manaul:
"Oil hose with BLUE stripe contains a directional filter which is designed to trap any
debris in the oil before the oil reaches the engine oil reservoir. The filter is marked with
an arrow denoting direction of flow of oil and should be installed accordingly. Should engine
oil reservoir oil level drop while remote oil tank oil level is normal, oil flow through
inline filter has been reduced by debris and filter must be replaced."
It appears that the non-alternator version (with small oil reservoir on front of engine) has a small filter screen on the suction tube of the main oil tank.
Eddie
Great, I'll check that out.
Dr. Honda, isn't there also 3 or 4 spark plugs in front of the steering wheel accessed by opening the changing room/bathroom? Do you know what type of plugs are needed off hand and where do you recommend getting them. ie. online, hardware store, etc.
Thanks guys!
Dr. Honda, isn't there also 3 or 4 spark plugs in front of the steering wheel accessed by opening the changing room/bathroom? Do you know what type of plugs are needed off hand and where do you recommend getting them. ie. online, hardware store, etc.
Thanks guys!
Dr. Honda,
Do you know where exactly to access the gas vent tube? I'm pretty sure I have a clog in mine because when I filled it up for gas last it wasn't blowing air our the vent and ended up spitting gas all over me when the tank got full. I've heard bugs is a common clog in those....
Thanks
Leo
Do you know where exactly to access the gas vent tube? I'm pretty sure I have a clog in mine because when I filled it up for gas last it wasn't blowing air our the vent and ended up spitting gas all over me when the tank got full. I've heard bugs is a common clog in those....
Thanks
Leo
Dr Honda
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the 2002 240EFI uses BPZ8HS-10 spark plugs. They are a little expensive... but you should be able to get them locally at a good price. AutoZone has NGK and are normally discounted.
As far as extra plugs in the helm... I guess that depends if the last owner's left them in there or not. BUT... spark plugs in the changing room sounds painful. (lol)
I haven't dug into the fuel tank on mine yet... but you can see the filler neck from inside the deck lid. You should also be able to see the the fuel tank vent.
As far as extra plugs in the helm... I guess that depends if the last owner's left them in there or not. BUT... spark plugs in the changing room sounds painful. (lol)
I haven't dug into the fuel tank on mine yet... but you can see the filler neck from inside the deck lid. You should also be able to see the the fuel tank vent.
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So, I have a trip planned next weekend and got my old friend out of storage last night to give it a look over. I went to hook/connect the batteries back up and noticed that they will still connected (shame on you to the tech who winterized it last fall). They were turned off, but still connected. Everything started just fine. However, the battery alarm sounded....is this just because the batteries may be low and will recharge itself once it is in water and runs for awhile? Or, do I need to worry about them since the outfit that winterized the boat last fall did'nt disconnect the batteries. I did'nt want to run the boat to long being it out of water and so I only let it run about 2-3 minutes. The alarm sounded directly after I started it and I silenced the alarm and it did not sound again, but like I said it was only 2-3 minutes running. It may have sounded again if I had the engine running longer. The batteries are brand new as of last year. Should the batteries be disconnected when winterized?
Some say, charge the batteries, how do I do that?
Some say, charge the batteries, how do I do that?
Dr Honda
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Just an FYI... it's NGK part number 3133.
Dr Honda
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You have a disconnect switch. There is no reason to physically disconnect the battery. Yes... give it a charge. (use a battery charger)
Racereddie
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The NGK Spark Plug 3133 BPZ8HS-10 at AutoZone will run you around $7.50 before taxes. I buy mine from ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/NGK-Spark-P...566?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27c692d6d6
Once you factor in shipping this site will get you 6 plugs for $39.75 which comes out to $6.63 a plug. They are buy-it now not a bidding war.
Eddie
Once you factor in shipping this site will get you 6 plugs for $39.75 which comes out to $6.63 a plug. They are buy-it now not a bidding war.
Eddie
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bigJake
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hmm, I definitly would advise against using any loctite ...
Dr Honda
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Just an update.
I got the engine out. It was actually easier than getting a typical Rotax engine out. The only issues were the big rubber couplers on the exhaust (they were stuck) and a small cable. I think it's the throttle adder for the steering system... but the connection is up behind the vapor separator.
The one thing that I thought was going to be an issue... turned out to be a non-issue. Originally, I thought I was going to have to remove the massive deck lid... but the way it's designed... the hinges allow it to just be opened into a vertical position once the struts are removed.
Here are a few pics. Can you spot the problem with pic #3???
I got the engine out. It was actually easier than getting a typical Rotax engine out. The only issues were the big rubber couplers on the exhaust (they were stuck) and a small cable. I think it's the throttle adder for the steering system... but the connection is up behind the vapor separator.
The one thing that I thought was going to be an issue... turned out to be a non-issue. Originally, I thought I was going to have to remove the massive deck lid... but the way it's designed... the hinges allow it to just be opened into a vertical position once the struts are removed.
Here are a few pics. Can you spot the problem with pic #3???
El Toro 33809
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Congrats on getting the engine out! It's nice when projects go easier than expected. Thanks for updating us on your progress.
And no, I can't spot the problem in picture 3. Maybe if I had a bigger screen I would. Reading the forum in an iPad as of right now.
And no, I can't spot the problem in picture 3. Maybe if I had a bigger screen I would. Reading the forum in an iPad as of right now.
Racereddie
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Just an update.
Here are a few pics. Can you spot the problem with pic #3???
That rod should be inside or connected to something, not just hanging out there!
Eddie
Dr Honda
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I got to spend some quality time with my engine today. AND.... it's not happy. There was a lot of oil in the engine... and the infamous worm gear looks new. From what I can tell... one of the rod bolts vibrated out, and then it ate itself. The lower case has a huge hole in it. The crank journal is beat. The rod and piston are gone... and the sleeve in the engine is mostly gone. (as in... missing)
I'm on the fence as if I'm going to revive this engine or not. I may just buy a power head, and sell off what I can.
Here's some pics.
I'm on the fence as if I'm going to revive this engine or not. I may just buy a power head, and sell off what I can.
Here's some pics.
El Toro 33809
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Looks like you have made some nice progress but with some unfortunate findings. Where would you find a good power head?
Doc,
What r u using to tow the Islandia? I use a Chevy Suburban LTZ 1500 for mine, it does pretty well considering the size of the boat. It makes my Suburban look tiny though, haha...Do you recommend not towing any boat with fuel in it? Is it worth the savings by not paying the high costs on the water? Also, with the the Islandia's water tank (which I think is 20 gallons). Problem is if you want fresh water in it for the sink, shower, kiddie pool, you may not be able to find a hose on the water to fill it when you get there....Just a few thoughts. I'm taking it out this weekend, hope all is smooth!
Leo
What r u using to tow the Islandia? I use a Chevy Suburban LTZ 1500 for mine, it does pretty well considering the size of the boat. It makes my Suburban look tiny though, haha...Do you recommend not towing any boat with fuel in it? Is it worth the savings by not paying the high costs on the water? Also, with the the Islandia's water tank (which I think is 20 gallons). Problem is if you want fresh water in it for the sink, shower, kiddie pool, you may not be able to find a hose on the water to fill it when you get there....Just a few thoughts. I'm taking it out this weekend, hope all is smooth!
Leo
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