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My everstart wal mart special sat for a month and now its dead.

(big Surprise)

Anyway I tested it and its D-E-A-D

Figured I could charge it overnight and it would hold a charge for a day at the lake.

Do I charge it on 12v 2 amps trickle charge for 10-12 hours?

DO I need to add acid? or water is fine? Where do I buy acid on a holiday?

How do you even open these batteries it seems like the top is sealed but maybe not.

The battery is t he everstart 16 cl b

thanks hope someone can help soon so I can get her charging asap.

I have already got her pulled out and ready to charge
 
To be honest...it's junk. I think they offer lifetime replacement but i wouldn't bother.
Some people call them onestart :) ...but to be honest my GSX came with a everstart last Nov. I've used it twice in Fl and it's been Ok so far, don't know if it will make a third time next month......will find out.

But once it's dead it probably won't came back to life at 100% even with charging

Buy a good battery.....Die Hard, etc....many to choose from.

Advance Auto will have coupons online if you have one near you.
 
Seadoobuddy said:
To be honest...it's junk. I think they offer lifetime replacement but i wouldn't bother.
Some people call them onestart :) ...but to be honest my GSX came with a everstart last Nov. I've used it twice in Fl and it's been Ok so far, don't know if it will make a third time next month......will find out.

But once it's dead it probably won't came back to life at 100% even with charging

Buy a good battery.....Die Hard, etc....many to choose from.

Advance Auto will have coupons online if you have one near you.
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well I am at the lake already and would like to charge it by morning.

A new battery is in store for the ski but for now any tips on how to properly charge it?

DO I need to open it or is this a sealed battery.

The battery was new in june its reading 10.25 volts and the ski wont even click or turnover whatsoever
 
Yeah you need about 12.6 at least.

2-1/2 months old and dead already.....Do you know why it discharged so fast?

Don't put 10 amp charge on it as it may damage the MPEM, UNLESS you disconnect the battery cables first.

If yours opens up then use "Distilled "water only....not TAP water.

2 amp for overnight is OK.
 
^ I agree. Actually any battery should only be slowly charged at 2 amps to properly regenerate the cells. 10 amps and up just boils the battery and the electrolyte and can also cause "scaling" on the plates, which reduces the battery's performance/life. Only batteries to charge at high amps are the OPTIMA yellow and red top orbital batteries.
 
What volt and amps do you guys charge at? I'm gonna need a new batter next season, I'll see what kind I have when I get home but I'm pretty sure it's a napa battery or something. I charge it at 12v 6 amps
 
MLars said:
What volt and amps do you guys charge at? I'm gonna need a new batter next season, I'll see what kind I have when I get home but I'm pretty sure it's a napa battery or something. I charge it at 12v 6 amps
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Normal use I use a tender as it not only charges it puts a load on the battery. Prevents over charging and frying the battery. It charges at 2 amps.

I own and use for my cars and motorcycle a larger charger that can go up to 50 amps for boosting and as low as 10 amps.
 
Thanks everyone for your help.

I just decided to buy a new battery.

Charged it at 2 amps for 8 hours and it still only held 10.85 V when it was all said and done.

Everstart nickname fits perfectly (Neverstart)

In fact towed a guy stranded on the water to shore today. Problem??? Wal Mart battery.

You get what you pay for and I am usually cheap. I think the extra $30 was money well spent!

Just junk. I spent the extra money on an AGM sealed battery and can already feel the difference when cranking and it is pre charged ready to use right out of the box.
 
AGM is the way to go. sealed batteries, longer life, more power. Only you HAVE TO charge them at low amps. I have an intelligent charger and I have to manually set it to 2 Amps. Takes longer, but it will make the battery last a couple years longer if well maintained.
 
This is why I coughed up $90 to buy an AGM battery. I don't want to have to feel like I'm 8 years old playing with a chemistry set mixing acids to get my Sea Doo started. If I go a couple weeks without riding it, I just toss it on the battery charger and it's good to go.
 
I second the AGM deal - just don't go with an AC Delco AGM.. I bought 2.. One with just normal driving separated the post from the battery (yes, the battery was properly secured) and I had to revive an older battery in a pinch (sunday, over an hour drive from the nearest auto store)
 
dustindu4 said:
I got the one they have at Autozone. It's like a 16Y-something. Tons of cranking power.
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16L maybe ?

anyways, I'd 3rd the AGM option, the last thing I want is to get to the ramp and be screwed. the last ski I bought came with an acid one, and (seller's name withheld) and I let it sit for 2 weeks since I was riding my other ski, decided to swap out ski's after riding for a couple hours and take the doo out for a spin, and guess what... not enough to crank... stopped and bought an AGM on the way home :) no way was I going to be throwing that thing on the tender every friday night "just in case I want to ride over the weekend"

IMO the only thing a lead acid battery is good for is a core :(
 
Other than using a tender over the winter I never have to charge my batteries.

I have had my skis sit for over a month and they still fire up perfectly at the ramp.

Good batteries, good connections and keeping my skis in great shape seems to work for me.
 
There a post on the jetskijunkies Facebook page last night about how good the X2 Power batteries are from Battery Plus. Several have said they have had theirs for 3 season and no problems, 1 said his lasted 6 years. This was a X2-30LA ...probably too big for 2 strokes but I assume the 16L is made about the same....I'll check. On sale for $137.00 also there is a $5 coupon on line from B+ once you click for a store near you.

My ski in Florida came with Wal-mart battery which I charged and added distilled water.....started in Nov. & April but who knows about next month?
 
I checked Batteryplus for a 16L Odyssey with either 150 or 185 CCA they want $147 or $169. I thought this was a lot of cash
The Autozone one had 325 CCA....why the difference and is it a big deal in Florida? for about $85
 
I checked again at B+, the X2-16L has 325 CCA for $104.
I thought Odyssey was a better battery????

Spec for X2:
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Item number: X2-16L
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One thing to note, deep cycle batteries are not normally the best for starting engines.

Deep cycle is very good for marine electronics though.
 
CJ, can you explain the difference between the two. I thought deep cycle was best for "long times between uses" type battery.

So what's the best for Seadoos?
 
Seadoobuddy said:
CJ, can you explain the difference between the two. I thought deep cycle was best for "long times between uses" type battery.

So what's the best for Seadoos?
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I had read a pretty in depth article on this. Before that, I had always bought deep cycle for all my marine apply applications.

Most deep cycle batteries store the power better than non-deep cycle. But with anything, there is give and take. Deep cycle batteries can not normally give the immediate and consistent performance of a regular battery.
[MENTION=16022]Dr Honda[/MENTION] mentioned something on this as well. I will look for the article. Lets see if Doc jumps in in the mean time.
 
Deep Cycle batteries are made to Cycle deeply. OK... I know that sounds like a politician answer. But, basically... they can give up more amps, over a longer time... without the voltage sagging too far.

The second thing to keep in mind is that a "Lead-Acid" battery will start to decay and/or the plates will sulfate over, at low voltages.

A deep cycle battery has thinner plates, (more surface aria) and that helps with the sulfating.



So.... a deep cycle is good for the "House Duties" in a boat. This is where you are running power items, and need to keep the voltage up, for longer times. BUT... you plan on pulling it down to 10v or so, before it gets charged again.


With all that said... because of the design... they generally don't have the ability to have a short, high amp output. (like trying to start an engien) Some deep cycle batteries can even be damaged if you try to use as a starting battery.



A "Starting Batter" is simply built heavier. They will have fewer, thick plates. And the connectors between the cells is heavier. But, because of the "Chunky" internals... they can sulfate quickly, if they are discharged too deep. This is why a good quality battery will die, if left to fully discharged.



Neither design has any better ability to hold a charge over time. Lead acid batteries will all discharge when sitting. But... good quality batteries may be able to deliver power when partly discharged. (Die-Hard batteries have been tested for this)



FYI... Lithium-Polymer, Lithium-Ion, and Lithium-Iron-Phosphate batteries have SUPER shelf life. They can sit for a year and loose less than 5%. AND... they are starting to play with LiFePo4 chem for starting batteries, but they need a special interface to prevent overcharging.




Oh... and just to throw in my 2 cents on all the battery talk......

My skis have wet, Die-Hard batteries. I bought them during a sale, and paid less than $50 each for them. This is their 3rd season, and they work just fine. But, the one in my XP is getting weak. (probably from lake of use) Yes, without a doubt, AGM batteries have a better design... but there are plenty of CRAP AGM batteries out there. SO, do not be fooled into thinking a high price tag, and design type makes it good. Also, East Penn makes batteries for a lot of companies, but they don't build them to the same spec for everyone.
 
Yep deep cycle is for trolling motors. Constant heavy draw over long periods. Holds up to running them down more without ruining them
 
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