Old VS New... the eternal debate

[BMANN06]

What a great off season thread!!

Here's my take on the situation ... Now before I get started I don't want you guys thinking I'm some green peace drone. For the record I believe global warming to be a hoax and like the fact that my (canadian) federal government recognizes the real science and shares my opinion. But the truth is that 2 strokes have a heavier emission output (I'm pretty sure we can all agree here), when in watercraft the unburned gas/oil and exhaust gases are heavier than air and will essentially stay in the lake. A 4 stroke really only exhausts warm gases that are lighter than air and rise into the atomosphere (any greenies don't start this argument ... you'll lose). So for this reason I can't see BRP making a two stroker pwc water craft. Snowmobiles etc sure ... 2 stroke why not? They're just ripping around on land/frozen lakes and not polluting water supplies etc.

I've worked on the 787s and the base 4tec, I won't lie here. I prefer the 4tec but wrenching on something is a matter of opinion. I just like all the electronic gizmos, and the error code system, along with fuel injection etc. It's nice when your tool tells you what cylinder the misfire is in, or what sensor is bitchin. Albeit the scanner tool for BRP is stupid expensive and very proprietry system, but the price will come down soon.

But do have to agree with alot of posters here ... I have a three seater ski that's packing 130 HP and weighs in a 800lbs, and a 4 seater 2x2stroke boat that weighs about 1500 lbs packing around 220hp,

yah .. my speedster ain't going nowheres!! :thumbsup: I'll be fixing that thing till the gov't pays me to take it off the lake.

 

[Sink]

It will probably be like the motorcycle industry. Anyone can buy a motorcycle/PWC with way too much power for them to handle. Just write a check! Suzuki produced the Hayabusa for a couple of years that would hit 200mph out of the box! Not that there is a huge difference between the 200 then and the 190 or so now... You can kill yourself at 30mph or less so what's the difference? The government always steps in...

Global warming/the earth cycling... I wont start... or finish... Seems we've had an ice age so it's been getting warmer or we would still have an ice age...

Everyone always wants faster and better, right? Not necessarily newer.

 

[Stunnerable]

Anyone know if there are still X4 bottom and top deck molds out there?

 

[Matt Braley]

Anyone know if there are still X4 bottom and top deck molds out there?

There were performance companies like Westcoast, Odessy, and Fiberworks making light weight versions of the X4 hull back in the day. Some of those molds might still be out there somewhere but that would be a rare find! It's gonna be a long time though before we run out of cheap dead Seadoos here in Fl.

My friend Chris has a new X4 bottom deck and a new X4 top deck in NJ that has never been put together yet.

 

[Stunnerable]

I know of Chris's decks Matt. I think the hull is an aftermarket design. Very trick!

I'll bet you Sea-Doo destroyed their molds. Only ones still out there would be the ones you named.