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2013 GTI SE 130 No display, No beep, No Start,No nothing- 30 AMP relay is hot and energized all the time.

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Normally a problem relating to the 30 AMP Relay, but swapped out relay and same thing. Relay clicks upon plugging it in, even with no key attached. New battery was drained of power. Recharged battery to full capacity and found that the relay was constantly energized, thus using battery always. Can't figure this out except for maybe a defective ECM. Am I missing something more simple? Help please! Thanks much in advance.
 
Looking at a wiring diagram the only way I can see that the 30 amp relay would be constantly hot without power to the rest of the start circuit would be a bad ECM. The only other possibility might be a normally open start stop switch stuck closed and the ECM can detect a bad start sequence.

The dess, cut off switch, TAS are all a function of the ECM. Maybe check your B connector to the ECM for corrosion.
 
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Looking at a wiring diagram the only way I can see that the 30 amp relay would be constantly hot without power to the rest of the start circuit would be a bad ECM. The only other possibility might be a normally open start stop switch stuck closed and the ECM can detect a bad start sequence.

The dess, cut off switch, TAS are all a function of the ECM. Maybe check your B connector to the ECM for corrosion.
Thanks for your interest in my problem. I spent all day dismanteling the wiring, the start/stop switch wiring, the fuse box, and the DESS switch. All things tested good and proper with an ohms/multimeter. Each item did exactly what it was supposed to do. Even testing continuity from the ECM connectors to each item, with and without power to the system. All functioned as they should. This still led me to the conclusion that I have a blitzed ECM. Only the brainworks inside the ECM can keep the relay constantly energized. At least I believe that I didn't leave anything untested so the ECM is my only conclusion. Still, if you or someone has a more vast understanding and knowledge of this system, I'm all eager to learn. I am 72 years old and was an electronics tech for the USPS with tons of training under my belt so I know enough about the validity of my troubleshooting and testing. I appreciate your effort to help and most assuredly appreciate it. Thank you again.
 
Looking at a wiring diagram the only way I can see that the 30 amp relay would be constantly hot without power to the rest of the start circuit would be a bad ECM. The only other possibility might be a normally open start stop switch stuck closed and the ECM can detect a bad start sequence.

The dess, cut off switch, TAS are all a function of the ECM. Maybe check your B connector to the ECM for corrosion.
One more thing that still leads me to a bad ECM is that when the relay is pulled, then replaced, it's energized as we know, but before the timeout of the ECM occurs, the display is very dimly lit up, but not properly displaying the normal info, just some of it.
 
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