Winterizing

[Steve_Cay]

So, unfortunately that time of year when I need to put the boat away. Will be storing indoor, but unheated storage that could drop below freezing.

2008 Speedster 155hp (no supercharger).

Three questions where I have seen conflicting info:

1) Throttle Body Lubrication.
I have the yellow nib on top of the engine cover.
Manual just states "Use fitting for that purpose provided on the throttle body. Make sure to spray lubricant at least 3 to 5 seconds for proper lubrication."

I have read some posts where engine should be running while doing it, and engine will sputter. Should engine be running while spraying? If so why does manual not mention it?

2) Antifreeze in exhaust manifold.
Manual states: "All engines: Disconnect the manifold top water outlet hose from the exhaust pipe. Install a funnel at the end of water outlet hose, then pour approximately 300 mL (10.14 oz U.S.) of antifreeze into the exhaust manifold."

I have read posts that say not needed on non-supercharger as it is automatically draining, and other posts that say new procedure is to blow out water with compressed air from garden hose flushing fitting.

Called dealer, and they told me the compressed air method can damage engine by forcing water into it, and to disregard method in manual and to run engine and pour antifreeze into a garden hose on the flushing fitting till I see it coming out the other end. I guess thats the safest method?

3) Engine Internal Lubrication
Manual says to crank after removing spark plugs and spraying cylinders with fogging oil: "To prevent fuel to be injected and also to cut the ignition at the engine cranking, from the engine compartment, have a second person hold throttle bell crank in fully opened position."

To avoid involving the wife, is putting the throttle lever at max while starting not the same thing? I pushed it to WOT with engine off, and "fully open position on bell crank" is just a touch more.

Any of the fine nuances from the pros appreciated !

 

[Steve_Cay]

Went ahead since I need the boat ready for tomorrow morning ...

Observations:
1) Throttle Body Lubrication.
I went ahead and sprayed while engine was running. Nothing blew up No sputtering either. Gave it a blast with engine off as well just in case.

2) Antifreeze in exhaust manifold.
Did it as the dealer said, since it seemed safest of the different methods. Attached short length of garden hose on flushing port, and shoved a funnel in the other end of the hose. Started engine, and poured undiluted antifreeze into funnel. Less than a minute later and two litres poured, and I could see antifreeze (after initial water) coming out of the jet and stopped. Could not be easier, and no need to use a bilge pump in a bucket of antifreeze to force it through as some other posts I found suggested.

3) cranking without starting
Experimented by putting it on WOT, and hitting the starter button. No cigar, starts at full RPM!
Was easy enough to put one arm in engine bay, and hold throttle crank fully open ... while hitting the started button with a broomstick in my other hand. Cranks but no start!

As a side note to this, when doing an oil change it is suggested that after sucking all the oil out, crank without starting and suck again. Repeat three times. I did not bother doing this last oil change (as I read posts saying not to bother). Did it this time (holding throttle crank) and got an extra litre out after 3 cranks/extractions!

 

[Djm2U]

Good info I have to do my wake 210 tomorrow. I will use this method too. Thanks for the post.

 

[Steve_Cay]

Your welcome.

And to complete this thread, additional items (per manual):
- Add fuel stabilizer to tank.
- Oil change.
- Spray all metal parts, including jet pump with lube.
- Remove and store battery (I use a battery conditioner hooked on).

Took me about 2 hours (first time I did it).

 

[casims2000]

Went ahead since I need the boat ready for tomorrow morning ...

Observations:
1) Throttle Body Lubrication.
I went ahead and sprayed while engine was running. Nothing blew up No sputtering either. Gave it a blast with engine off as well just in case.

2) Antifreeze in exhaust manifold.
Did it as the dealer said, since it seemed safest of the different methods. Attached short length of garden hose on flushing port, and shoved a funnel in the other end of the hose. Started engine, and poured undiluted antifreeze into funnel. Less than a minute later and two litres poured, and I could see antifreeze (after initial water) coming out of the jet and stopped. Could not be easier, and no need to use a bilge pump in a bucket of antifreeze to force it through as some other posts I found suggested.

3) cranking without starting
Experimented by putting it on WOT, and hitting the starter button. No cigar, starts at full RPM!
Was easy enough to put one arm in engine bay, and hold throttle crank fully open ... while hitting the started button with a broomstick in my other hand. Cranks but no start!

As a side note to this, when doing an oil change it is suggested that after sucking all the oil out, crank without starting and suck again. Repeat three times. I did not bother doing this last oil change (as I read posts saying not to bother). Did it this time (holding throttle crank) and got an extra litre out after 3 cranks/extractions!

I tried putting antifreeze through the flushing port, but this did not work for me. I let the engine run, but the antifreeze did not pull through the system. What am I doing wrong. I don't want to burn up the engine.

 

[Steve_Cay]

I tried putting antifreeze through the flushing port, but this did not work for me. I let the engine run, but the antifreeze did not pull through the system. What am I doing wrong. I don't want to burn up the engine.

Here is exactly what I did:
1) First flush exhaust manifold with water with garden hose attached to faucet and flushing port. (The standard technique: start engine, turn on tap, turn off tap after 2 minutes, stop engine)
--- after half an hour or so ---
2) Screw a 3 foot length of hose on flushing port.
3) Start engine
4) Run back to back of boat, hold other end of hose two feet higher than flushing port so it angles down. Shove funnel in this end.
5) Pour un-diluted green antifreeze in funnel, as quickly as it takes it in.
6) For first 30s or so nothing is coming out, then water, then the green stuff after a minute.
7) After admiring green puddle on my driveway, run and shut off engine.

Half of the standard size antifreeze container went through.

* Yes I know I should have used pink plumbing antifreeze which is better for environment.

Guessing what you could have done differently: Did you flush with water first? Did you hold funnel higher than flushing port and angle hose up so gravity pulls it through? Did you wait a minute? Did the antifreeze just stay in the funnel, or did it go through but not out the other end? Do you have some "quick-adapter" on the hose that needs pressure to get though?

Also from your description, you have a 2-stroke and another super-charged Speedster. Perhaps they flush differently, i.e. super-charge has the intercooler. Mine is the non-superhcarge 155hp, which I stated to dealer when he told me to do it this way. I did read some posts that people put a bilge pump on the other end of the hose in a bucket of anti-freeze to force it through ... perhaps some models need the pressure to force through.

 

[casims2000]

Here is exactly what I did:
1) First flush exhaust manifold with water with garden hose attached to faucet and flushing port. (The standard technique: start engine, turn on tap, turn off tap after 2 minutes, stop engine)
2) Screw a 3 foot length of hose on flushing port.
3) Start engine
4) Run back to back of boat, hold other end of hose two feet higher that flushing port so it angles down. Shove funnel in this end.
5) Pour un-diluted green antifreeze in funnel, as quickly as it takes it in.
6) I am guessing for first 30s nothing is coming out, then water, then the green stuff after a minute.
7) After admiring green puddle on my driveway, run and shut off engine.

Half of the standard size antifreeze container went through.

* Yes I know I should have used pink plumbing antifreeze which is better of environment.

Guessing what you could have done differently: Did you flush with water first? Did you hold funnel higher than flushing port and angle hose up so gravity pulls it through? Did you wait a minute? Did the antifreeze just stay in the funnel, or did it go through but not out the other end?

Also from you description, you have a 2-stroke and another super-charged Speedster. Perhaps they flush differently, i.e. super-charge has the intercooler. Mine is the non-superhcarge 155hp, which I stated to dealer when he told me to do it this way.

I tried again and realized I didn't wait 1 minute. It finally came out around 45-50 seconds. Thanks

I do have the supercharger so I'm wondering if I have to do anything differently. I thought I read where I can do it the way you described and it will run through the intercooler. I'll do more research to make sure this is correct because trying to get to the intercooler hoses is almost impossible.

 

[casims2000]

I tried again and realized I didn't wait 1 minute. It finally came out around 45-50 seconds. Thanks

I do have the supercharger so I'm wondering if I have to do anything differently. I thought I read where I can do it the way you described and it will run through the intercooler. I'll do more research to make sure this is correct because trying to get to the intercooler hoses is almost impossible.

I just remembered, I think my bench seat opens on the bottom into the front of the engine compartment where the front of the engines can be reached easily, which means I can get to the intercooler!! I'll check tomorrow.