why API-TC oil?

[dylan1323]

i was told to use API-TC oil in my 95 gtx not tc-w. well i cant find the api oil anywhere except online. but i can find the tc-w just down the steet at autozone. i was just wondering if i can use the tc-w? and why should i use api-tc oil?

 

[mikidymac]

You can run any oil in your ski but it just will not run for very long. The SeaDoo's are a different animal than the other skis. They make more horsepower per cc than the others, run more compression and run a rotary valve and thus require a different oil. These engines are running at their max output from the factory and need better lubrication than a TCW oil can provide. The TCW is more of an outboard oil that will see fewer rpm's and does not need to burn as clean because they do not have exhaust valves like the 787 and larger seadoos. You can get the seadoo oil shipped for free if you buy three gallons or more so the price is not much different. You have a high performance ski and need to feed it good oil to keep it alive.

 

[WrensLawnCare]

Sorry to hijack but Is this the same for the 717? Just wondering.

 

[dylan1323]

You can run any oil in your ski but it just will not run for very long. The SeaDoo's are a different animal than the other skis. They make more horsepower per cc than the others, run more compression and run a rotary valve and thus require a different oil. These engines are running at their max output from the factory and need better lubrication than a TCW oil can provide. The TCW is more of an outboard oil that will see fewer rpm's and does not need to burn as clean because they do not have exhaust valves like the 787 and larger seadoos. You can get the seadoo oil shipped for free if you buy three gallons or more so the price is not much different. You have a high performance ski and need to feed it good oil to keep it alive.

ok so i need to use API?

 

[nammer]

Sorry to hijack but Is this the same for the 717? Just wondering.

yea i think so as well

 

[dylan1323]

what about xps oil?

 

[riding high]

Don't use anything but synthetic xps oil if you want your machine to last long.

 

[rlamb1]

i just picked up some fully synthetic xps for my 1996 gtx, hope this is ok?

 

[LouDoo]

I use SeaDoo XPS-2 full synthetic in my ski's with 787 (rave valves). FYI Quicksilver PWC, API-TC both synthetic blend and full synthetic is available at most Walmart Superstores, so the "I can't find it just doesn't fly".

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Mercury-Quicksilver-PWC-Full-Synthetic-2-Cycle-Oil/17165296

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Mercury-Q...gMethod=Recommendation:wm:RecentlyViewedItems

Lou

 

[riding high]

i just picked up some fully synthetic xps for my 1996 gtx, hope this is ok?

That is a really smart move. IMHO!!!!!

 

[gullwingcorsair]

Lou... Does the full synthetic keep rave valves cleaner?

 

[JCzGTX]

i just picked up some fully synthetic xps for my 1996 gtx, hope this is ok?

Remind me Friday to see what I just bought. I just looked for the same jug the PO gave me.

 

[LouDoo]

Lou... Does the full synthetic keep rave valves cleaner?

Yes, that's the main difference between the synthetic blend and the full synthetic.

Lou

 

[gullwingcorsair]

Good to know!

Thanks

 

[spx800]

Don't use anything but synthetic xps oil if you want your machine to last long.

Not true, as long as it's full, or semi-synthetic API-TC oil you will be fine. I've been running the quicksilver API-TC full and semi-synthetic oils from walmart for the last three seasons without issues; both skis have good compression numbers and run mint.

 

[LouDoo]

:agree: Yes, the brand is not important but the API-TC rating is.

Lou

 

[Rotor13B]

I use SeaDoo XPS-2 full synthetic in my ski's with 787 (rave valves). FYI Quicksilver PWC, API-TC both synthetic blend and full synthetic is available at most Walmart Superstores, so the "I can't find it just doesn't fly".

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Mercury-Quicksilver-PWC-Full-Synthetic-2-Cycle-Oil/17165296

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Mercury-Q...gMethod=Recommendation:wm:RecentlyViewedItems

Lou

Not to argue but i have two super walmarts within 10 miles of me and neither one carry the quicksilver synthetic or semi synth. They only have the non api-tc rated oil.

 

[Vandyck]

Hello.

Is hard to find the Motul 510? I use this one.

 

[brock1]

Sorry to hijack but Is this the same for the 717? Just wondering.

yes its true for the 717 but unlike the 787 you can run mineral oil in the 717... just make sure its API-TC

 

[WhiskeyD]

Not to argue but i have two super walmarts within 10 miles of me and neither one carry the quicksilver synthetic or semi synth. They only have the non api-tc rated oil.

Yeah, it seems not all walmarts carry the Quicksilver PWC semi/full synthetic. There's a couple of Walmart around here that don't sell it but luckily the majority of them do. XPS-2 is outrageous around here, its $65+ a jug.


edit - and to answer the OPs question... API-TC is a low ash oil whereas TWC 3 is ashless

 

[brock1]

guys guys guys ...........here is a link for fully synthetic API-TC low ash oil and its XPS ....i order mine from this guy and he gets it to you in 3 days and shipping is free....... do yourself a favor and get some here is the link

http://www.ebay.com/itm/170846504700?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

 

[Strizzo]

as an interesting side note, i looked at the 2-stroke oil on the shelf in a gas station in the UK while i was there for work, and they only had API-TC rated oil.

 

[El Toro 33809]

I'm using the Amsoil. Is there a dealer for that by you?

 

[Vandyck]

In Brazil its very difficult to find the XPS and when you find, its expensive. I use motul 510, i think that's easier to find anywhere and all the best sea doo dealers recommend it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motul-83744...h=item5d33ba73ea&vxp=mtr&_uhb=1#ht_1498wt_952

 

[Rotor13B]

I was at 7-Eleven the other day and their 2 stroke oil was rated to meet api-tc standards. Something to keep in mind if you're in a pinch.