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Fair enough. I guess you indirectly answered my question. I had been lead to believe (probably just my incorrect interpretation) that if you didn't use Seadoo (low ash) oil and used TCW-3 (ashless) oil that it would cause some type of catostrophic failure ("burn it up"). If it is "ok" to use TCW-3 oil and the Seadoo oil is a "preferred" oil to get longer life then I get that. I was just questioning the ability to use TCW-3 oil without experiencing some type of failure. You can tell I am no oil expert but I am cheap.... :)

Appreciate the feedback. From what I am gathering a guy may or may not experience any problems from using ashless oil but is most likely to get more hours out of his engine if he uses the preferred (low ash) Seadoo oil... Is that a fair summary?


Yes, I think you get the idea now. I have several friends who ride the Seadoo's. I live on Dog river and pretty well known around my parts as a river rat. I never pass someone broken down. Lots of the time, this is how I make a little side work (I don't charge but rely on tips). Many of these people are running a TCW-3 oil. Some will change it out when I let them know it's the wrong oil, others say, "oh, I've been running it for years"......so, with that said. Your right! You might get a really good engine that will eat rocks and be around a long time. Or, you could get one of those engines that (I call) are tempermental. Let a spec of dust in through the air intake and you got to do a rebuild.

Cheap?........I sometimes think I invented the word. That's my middle name. I have very few of the special tools to do my work because there are too many ways to use standard materials to get my job done. But, I'll say this. Sometimes being cheap cost you more than spending a few dollars. Because you could find yourself doing twice the maintenance if you only used premium products...............:cheers:

Great thread........I enjoyed responding to it.:)
 
Well all I know is while researching the best oils,the name Amsoil kept coming up over and over again.And the test results were amazing. So it was a no brainer for me. Amsoil in all my stuff now.
 
Hey Chek,
What is the price comparison between Sea Doo oil, Quicksilver and Amsoil?
All being accepted by Sea Doo as compatable oil, of course.
Reason is, I purchase Sea Doo oil, but I buy in bulk during January when prices are low. Sometimes I can find a %50 off sale, but not always likely!
 
Hey Chek,
What is the price comparison between Sea Doo oil, Quicksilver and Amsoil?
All being accepted by Sea Doo as compatable oil, of course.
Reason is, I purchase Sea Doo oil, but I buy in bulk during January when prices are low. Sometimes I can find a %50 off sale, but not always likely!

You can get Amsoil for around 30-40 bucks a gallon depending on how and where you get it. And of course the price goes down if you buy bulk.

I get the Amsoil for $28 a gallon plus shipping. so that's a steal considering its like 38 bucks for the wally world quicksilver junk. Especially since I believe Amsoil is the best, since I cant seem to find any evidence to prove otherwise.

And no I am not an Amsoil dealer. lol
 
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You can get Amsoil for around 30-40 bucks a gallon depending on how and where you get it. And of course the price goes down if you buy bulk.

I get the Amsoil for $28 a gallon plus shipping. so that's a steal considering its like 38 bucks for the wally world quicksilver junk. Especially since I believe Amsoil is the best, since I cant seem to find any evidence to prove otherwise.

And no I am not an Amsoil dealer. lol

If you buy it off the internet for $28.00 plus shipping it's gonna be around $10.00 for shipping which = $38.00...just buy it local for the almost same amount and not wait for a delivery. :ack:

Karl
 
See...this is what I was wanting to know! Are we comparing apples to apples?
Any of the three oils we are talking about here are good, otherwise the companies that produce them would not be in business very long.
I am trying to figure out what is the better deal. I see these deals all the time on e-bay, craigslist etc.
So I guess my point is to search for the best deal comparing apples to apples, buy it, and be done with it. then you are set for next season.
Except for Karl...yes, we know how warm it is where you live. lol

Jesse
 
Amsoil?

Well all I know is while researching the best oils,the name Amsoil kept coming up over and over again.And the test results were amazing. So it was a no brainer for me. Amsoil in all my stuff now.

I did fail to mention that. Amsoil is one of the, if not the, best and most widest brand of oil used in our Rotax engines today. They have a great technical staff that will help you match up the oil you need for your engine. They also have a guarantee that if it's proven that their oil caused your engine to blow, they'll replace it.

Most racing circuit riders use Amsoil.

The biggest issue with oil is availability. WHen we are out riding and in need of oil, many of us do not live near a Seadoo dealership. Or, for some reason or other, not wanting to use the mail order on the Amsoil oil. And the one place that is near everyong in this forum is a "Walmart"..........

My Walmart carries the TC-low ash "Full Synthetic" oil by the gallon for about $30 bucks. I have used it now for 3, going on 4 years. I have not opened the cylinders yet for this year but I expect they will be as clean as the years past.

It's in my opinion, this Quicksilver oil is of high quality when it comes to protecting my motor(s) and the good part, it's within 5 miles of my house if I need it..............:cheers:
 
Snipe,
In the society that we live in today, convience is a must. I read it here on this forum, especially with the younger subscribers.
So I guess I would have to agree with you that Quicksilver is the oil to use because of quality, OEM acceptance and availability.

Enough said,
Jesse
 
Amsoil?

Snipe,
In the society that we live in today, convience is a must. I read it here on this forum, especially with the younger subscribers.
So I guess I would have to agree with you that Quicksilver is the oil to use because of quality, OEM acceptance and availability.

Enough said,
Jesse

If they sold Amsoil "intercepter" oil at my local Walmart or any where it was feasible for me to get it, I would. I have seen the internal components of an engine that was raced with this oil. The properties of keeping an engine well lubricated are second to none.

I think, every race circuit I've been able to be a part of (not racing), the Amsoil is the most widely used oil.

For me, the Quicksilver "Full Synthetic" is inexpensive ($28 bucks a gallon) and will last about one full season. I pull my head covers, exhaust manifold and sometimes, the PTO cylinder just for inspection. The engine is spotless. The only carbon you can slightly see is the build up on my RAVE valves.

I also use Full Synthetic in my vehicles. If you read and truly understand the molecular structure of how synthetic oil protects your rotating parts, you'd be won over after reading it.

Back when Synthetics first came out, they got a bad rap because they ctreated leaking seals. Well, that problem has been eleminated. Now, all we have to worry about when it come to seals, is if we decide to burn "Ethanol"...........:cheers:
 
i just use the seadoo xps oil,is there any other alternative?i think amsoil is not available here in our country.but we have quicksilver,which i only use for my 720 engine.but not on my 800's.im afraid the engine might siezed.
 
Unfortunately - I have - twice

I'm not trying to start anything and I'm sure this has been discussed a bazillion times but has anyone ever experienced FIRST HAND an engine failure from using TCW3 oil?

I know what the manual says but I also know my motorcycle manuals and shop manuals RECOMMEND a lot of things that many owners don't follow and have never had any problems....

Again - no trying to stir the pot but just curious if anyone had experienced an engine failure first hand from the use of TCW3 oil? Not hearsay but first hand? I could possibly see if the Doo was used for racing and was subjected to extremely high temps but I'd be surprised to hear of it for recreational use.

Anyone?



First time was 97 XP. Same situation as most - bingo light for oil - grabbed some quicksilver outboard from the dock - figured it would be ok - wrong. Engine blew 2 weeks later - fairly spectacularly too I must say. Second occassion on my 97 Challenger - bought oil and got confused on and bought TCW3 versus API TC after not owning a ski for a while. Same thing - starboard engine blew completely port engine needed rebuilt. Mechanic had all the parts laid out on the bench and showed me what had occurred - gummed parts - cause build up and then boom.

I only buy the Sea Doo 2 Stroke Synthetic now - just searching for a better price - - - not much luck
 
Try Mosites Motorsports in Pittsburgh, I've been buying SeaDoo XPS-2 full synthetic 45.00 a gallon shipped.

Lou
 
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Try Mosites Motorsports in Pittsburgh, I've been buying SeaDoo XPS-2 full synthetic 45.00 a gallon shipped.

Lou

THanks Lou. I have been buying on ebay actually. (3) 1 gallon containers for $129 with free ship. Its just time to rebuy so I was wondering if there was anywhere better. After an exhaustive search yesterday - I bought from ebay again.
 
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