Think twice before buying SEA-DOO or should I say SEA-DON'T

[Michael211_2000]

I think I would be finding a different dealer.

There's no dealer that's going to warranty that nor try to convince BRP to warranty it. IF it had been brought back to them day 1 with 0 hrs still on it, maybe they would have covered it... but after 8 hours of use, and with that kind of damage to the impeller... I've over 20 years experience with jet propelled watercraft and jetpumps and I cannot fathom any way this could have occurred due to a mechanical defect. Something went thru that pump was chewed up and spit out the back, there is no other way this could have occurred. Look closely at the impeller, note the rubber nosecone is all torn up even... whatever it was (a branch, I think) it had wrapped itself around the shaft for a bit and tore the nosecone up even.

I have a hard time believing this damage all occurred in hour 1 of use and then ran fine for 7 more hours before losing all propulsion capabilities furthermore. With that much damage to the wear ring it would have cavitated like a SOB for the previous 7 hours of use!

- Michael

 

[Michael211_2000]

Ahhh! I see now that that's a piece of the wear ring that's torn completely loose and passed thru the impeller and is trapped between the impeller and the rear housing veins... and it's stuck (apparently) right where the water ports are that take pressurized water and feed it to the exhaust system. That explains why the exhaust system overheated and melted down... though not why it wasn't blaring the alarm long before the system melted down and sank the watercraft. I do not like the idea of plastic parts in the exhaust system that's a bad design IMO.

What I cannot see in the pics is where that piece of wear ring actually came from... is the wear ring from the blade leading edges forward intact or not? Even if that piece of wear ring had been spinning around in front of the impeller for a bit it would have been forced to the outside edges of the impeller blades it would never have been able to reach the nosecone in the middle. Something long and hard had to have been wound up around the shaft, at least briefly, to tear up the nosecone like that. A branch is the only thing that comes to my mind unfortunately. At the least I can agree with you that you did not suck in a rock or rocks!

- Michael

 

[bigJake]

sure have to agree with Michael. The very first thing I noticed was the chewed up rubber flange on the front of the pump. Something obviously was sucked thru that pump and beat the hell out of your impeller. I have almost 120 hours on both of my skis and both impellers have at most one tiny nick on the leading edge. The edge of your impeller looks like it was in a war zone and I sure don't think plastic could do that damage.

 

[Michael211_2000]

http://www.seadooforum.com/showthread.php?53372-Wake-215-Sucked-and-spit&p=269116#post269116

Look at the pics of this one with 15 hours on it after it sucked a small stick thru the pump... it's impeller looks like brand new besides the small nicks it suffered on the leading edges. They knew they'd sucked something thru their pump and actually saw the bits of stick behind them after it cleared the pump.

I imagine yours here had a branch at least 2-3 feet long sucked up in it, wrapped around the shaft and beat the impeller to death got between the blades and the wear ring tearing the wear ring to pieces then finally was chopped up enough to blow out the back. That's my best guess at any rate.

It suxs, but you're going to have to accept it and foot the bill... nobody and no warranty will cover this.

- Michael

 

[SkiCrazyMN]

Hey, if this was caused by debris in the water, then most likely your insurance will pay to get it fixed.

 

[red2blue]

C'mon fellas....those pics are worth a thousand words. If I had a bs flag to wave I woulda done it long ago.

Even the BEST warranty is limited. Sometimes....a new owner should read the instruction manual instead of making the classic mistake of thinking he knows wtf he's doing....especially with a coupla brand new toys.

 

[Michael211_2000]

Yup. Agreed, my thoughts exactly R2B. The OP probably won't be back though... since we're not all "Darned that SeaDoo dealership and darn BRP to Heck for not replacing this watercraft for him". He really seemed to think it was a factory defect that caused all that damage... oh well. :-\

- Michael

 

[bigJake]

I thought maybe he set it upside down on a couple saw horses in his back yard, took the grate off and was using it as a chipper/shredder.

 

[KK40384]

After seeing the pics I have to agree with everyone else. You sucked something into that pump. There's nothing the dealer or BRP will do for you as far as warranty is concerned. Time to call your insurance, pay your deductible, and learn a valueble lesson. I sucked up something before and did almost as much damage as you minus sinking the ski. $hit happens sometimes.

 

[cheappc]

It started to sink? thats scary man....

I hope everything works out, I hope that never happens to me!

 

[srgibson]

I agree that something must have went through the impeller and yes it maybe should have went back right away and me not unerstanding how the neutrual worked ( assuming it worked like a prop motor) whatever caused this issue was in the pump when I got the ski and cleared itself after the first 30 or so seconds in the water and maybe it was cavitating some after I have no way to compare how it should have ran and it wasnt ran hard so not sure and no one else has been on it since I picked it up and I know nothing has gone through it that I have been able to hear anway and there have also been I believe 4 other cases just like mine off the trailer in the past 4 or so weeks in three different states

http://www.seadooforum.com/showthread.php?53372-Wake-215-Sucked-and-spit&p=269116#post269116

Look at the pics of this one with 15 hours on it after it sucked a small stick thru the pump... it's impeller looks like brand new besides the small nicks it suffered on the leading edges. They knew they'd sucked something thru their pump and actually saw the bits of stick behind them after it cleared the pump.

I imagine yours here had a branch at least 2-3 feet long sucked up in it, wrapped around the shaft and beat the impeller to death got between the blades and the wear ring tearing the wear ring to pieces then finally was chopped up enough to blow out the back. That's my best guess at any rate.

It suxs, but you're going to have to accept it and foot the bill... nobody and no warranty will cover this.

- Michael

 

[bigJake]

I really feel for you man but, the problem is, even if there was something in the pump when you got the ski, that is impossible to prove and the dealership and BRP are going to say you sucked something up. How can you be so sure you didn't suck something up when you launched the ski? There could have been something submerged that you didn't see. Extremely bad luck. How did you find cases of other similiar incidences?

 

[srgibson]

pushed of the trailer and tried to accelarate shortly after starting I agree there is no way to prove short of the other cases......I found them when I posted my frustration in a "calm" way on see doo's facebook page and people started chiming in with the same issue so I guess we will see and if something would have got sucked in it would have made a noticiable noise I would think

I really feel for you man but, the problem is, even if there was something in the pump when you got the ski, that is impossible to prove and the dealership and BRP are going to say you sucked something up. How can you be so sure you didn't suck something up when you launched the ski? There could have been something submerged that you didn't see. Extremely bad luck. How did you find cases of other similiar incidences?

 

[brock1]

I swear i have seen this exact same type of thread somewhere in the past....any body remember who it was.........maybe KELTONKS !!!!!

 

[bigJake]

You aren't going to get anywhere with the dealer. I think the only viable path is to contact BRP customer service, BE EXTREMELY COURTEOUS. admit it seems highly unlikely that somethign was in the pump from the factory, say you have pruchased 2 brand new skis over the years and you have an 8 hour old ski thats busted and even if you did unknowingly suck somethign up you were hoping there was something they could do to help you out. With some luck you might get someone who is having a good day and help you out with a portion of the costs. But, I wouldn't get my hopes too high. Remember, Honey attracts more bees that vinegar. Don't know what you are going to do with bees though...

 

[BMANN06]

I swear i have seen this exact same type of thread somewhere in the past....any body remember who it was.........maybe KELTONKS !!!!!

Oh lets not revive that misery .... LOLS!!! Although I use that GTI pretty much every weekend ... Lovin' it!!

 

[Seadoobuddy]

pushed of the trailer and tried to accelerate shortly after starting I agree there is no way to prove short of the other cases......I found them when I posted my frustration in a "calm" way on Seadoo's Facebook page and people started chiming in with the same issue so I guess we will see and if something would have got sucked in it would have made a noticeable noise I would think

What exact page did you post it on. There are dozen of pages for Seadoo.
Thanks

 

[Seadoobuddy]

Oh lets not revive that misery .... LOLS!!! Although I use that GTI pretty much every weekend ... Lovin' it!!

Just think, for some labor and parts he could have had an almost "new" ski and been on the lake, just like you.
Seems like "he didn't think it through" just got mad and sold it to you. Your gain.....

 

[srgibson]

it was just under sea doo I had liked the page some time ago.....

What exact page did you post it on. There are dozen of pages for Seadoo.
Thanks

 

[Sea dog]

I have a buddie that one of his bailer tubes fell out of the jet pump.. It didnt get hit by a rock wasnt broken off just missing... And what happened next it filled up the engine bay and motor with water... Everytime I ride mine I wonder if this will be my day... Thinking about a automatic blidge pump... Then ill have one less worrie...

 

[Ronsse610]

who buy's WAKE SEADOO anyways? lol