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Spark concernes

I just picked up me new Spark this morning after a 5 week wait.. Won't be out on the water until the weekend.. I've seen two posts of broken hulls, the first was in NZ, the thing looked like high impact at hight speed but no clear info given on how the damage was done.. Like anything they will break in that situation.. The second, was damaged while loading the ski onto a trailer in low water, looked the the bunk had gone straight through.. Both of these examples the user could of avoided, and there would have been damage with any other hull..
 
What is Seadoos Post 2000 ski that will be best for what im wanting guys?

I would guess an XP, 951cc carb or 951cc Direct Injection? There's the 800 motor skis too, not quite as high-strung as the 951 and arguably more durable. The 951 is a reed motor and the 800 is rotary valve induction, both have pluses and minuses, both smelly 2-stokers that burn expensive oil and their fair share of fuel, the injection motor is somewhat better on fuel, mostly it's the cost of 2-stroke oil that makes the difference from the 4-strokers which are more economical in just about every way except size. Until the Spark came along, all the 4-stroke jetskis had become humongo battleships.
 
Wow guys.. check this guy out with his Sea Doo Spark, talk about jumping waves!!


[video=youtube;BsAtBZXiRuQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsAtBZXiRuQ&feature=youtu.be[/video]
 
Wow. Really? That makes me happy with 1voice and concerned in another lol. The lightweight is what I'm wanting but concerned of the plastic hull
 
Well they quit making the X-4 hull in 1999 (I think), so I guess you're back to the Spark. You know the only difference between the 60hp and the 90hp Spark is a software upgrade, which your dealer can probably do.

If you're interested in an SeaDoo with the X-4 hull and a 787 here's the rundown.
95XP 800, kinda rare.
96XP
97-99SPX

You might want to check out this, it's a rundown on most SeaDoo's from the beginning to almost now.

http://www.seadoosource.com/seadoomodelreference.html

Lou
 
a 2001 xpdi is the closest thing to what you're talking about. it came with a 2-stroke 951 engine, which I believe was direct injected. i recall many people saying that the carbureted version was better, but if you ask me, they're both 2-strokes. If you get any sort of lean condition or imperfection, you lose the engine. I can't even tell you how many of these motors I've had to rebuild over the past few years. the only two-stroke I'll consider owning ever again is the x4 (95-96 XP body). all my cruisers and boats henceforth will be 4tec.

i totally agree with you jammin, the old hulls were the best! i wish they'd bring them back too!
 
Generally speaking given your criteria: if what you want, a lightweight post 2000 wave jumper, the spark is pretty much it.
otherwise the X4, modded up is your best 2nd choice, IMO don't sweat the age, my 95/96 xp's were treated poorly and abused every ride and were pretty much trouble free. I rode X4's for about 3 years, and loved them.
there are other ski's that like to jump, both of mine love to jump, but don't meet the lightweight criteria) certainly they nothing that you can throw in the back of anything unless you're also a powerlifter on the side. so if you are trying to stay in the lightweight category, they posters have pretty much hit it spot on.
 
Wow such great replies. Thsnx guys. When I mean lightweight I mean lighter then my rx. Seeing that video of the guy jumping the spark that exactly what I'm wanting. .

The 60hp SO is $9499 2 up
The 90hp HO is $9999 2 up
The 90hp 3up is$10999

The tune costs $800
So the bang fir buck is the SO @ $9499+ $800=$10299
If I hit a hole in the hull insurance should payout I'm sure. Hence why you have vehicle insurance correct?
 
Wow such great replies. Thsnx guys. When I mean lightweight I mean lighter then my rx. Seeing that video of the guy jumping the spark that exactly what I'm wanting. .

The 60hp SO is $9499 2 up
The 90hp HO is $9999 2 up
The 90hp 3up is$10999

The tune costs $800
So the bang fir buck is the SO @ $9499+ $800=$10299
If I hit a hole in the hull insurance should payout I'm sure. Hence why you have vehicle insurance correct?

I am assuming that is NZ$$ or is it US? $10299 NZ is about $8600 US which is pretty close to what the guys around here will be paying.
 
Why not get the gts130? Fiberglass, about the same speed. Similar price for the base gts vs the loaded spark.
 
Why not get the gts130? Fiberglass, about the same speed. Similar price for the base gts vs the loaded spark.

Good point, I would want a plastic hull to be considerably more durable than one made of fiberglass, assuming the plastic is difficult to repair. I already feel comfortable repairing fiberglass if I were to punch a hole in one.
 
What's the size comparisons? Any charts showing the seadoo range dimensions? Thanx fir the help guys
 
Good point, I would want a plastic hull to be considerably more durable than one made of fiberglass, assuming the plastic is difficult to repair. I already feel comfortable repairing fiberglass if I were to punch a hole in one.
I'm pretty sure that if you punch a hole in it, you'll repair it with fiberglass anyway. There really is no substitute. I just hope it cracks like fiberglass and not like plexiglass (localized cracks at source of impact vs looooong running cracks)
 
I'm pretty sure that if you punch a hole in it, you'll repair it with fiberglass anyway. There really is no substitute. I just hope it cracks like fiberglass and not like plexiglass (localized cracks at source of impact vs looooong running cracks)

If your dumb enough to repair plastic with fiberglass THRN you shouldn't own 1 lol.. It will simply delaminate
 
If your dumb enough to repair plastic with fiberglass THRN you shouldn't own 1 lol.. It will simply delaminate
Hey man, I'm just trying to be helpful. Anyways, fiberglass IS a type of plastic. It's all just polymers. There are several different kinds of resins you can use, and I'm sure there's one that is compatible with the type of plastic used in the ski. I don't see how else one would you repair it...
 
Hey man, I'm just trying to be helpful. Anyways, fiberglass IS a type of plastic. It's all just polymers. There are several different kinds of resins you can use, and I'm sure there's one that is compatible with the type of plastic used in the ski. I don't see how else one would you repair it...

no no don't take that the wrong way please lol. no harm or punt intended, I just work with fiberglass all the time and laugh at the people that bring their fiberglass repaired plastic bumpers to me and I just touch them and they delaminate lol..

plastic can only be repaired with the SAME kind of product. fiberglass is glass straw fibers . plastic is a powder . even composite plastic is hard to adhere to fiberglass
 
I'm no expert on repairing plastic, but I do work at an automobile dealership. One of the car lines that we use to have was Saturn. Saturn's especially the early models used a lot of plastic panels. The plastic panels would take a lot of abuse, more than you would think. However when one of the panels would crack the recommended repair was to replace the panel.

The plastic used in the Spark is most likely not the same composition as the plastic panels used in the Saturn, but I would assume they are similar, so I guess time will tell about how durable the Spark hull will prove to be. If I were to purchase a Spark I would certainly have hull insurance, so this gets to be a non-factor, except for the fact about how long it would take to get the replacement parts.

Lou
 
While docking at the launch and a restaurant the barnacles showed how soft the plastic is. Just a couple of scratches, but they won't just buff out.
Anybody have the factory fenders yet? Do they clip on anywhere, or just in the 2 holes on the sides. I might have to find an aftermarket rub rail, or not dock at low tide.
 
Don't think they are available until March? I did see the clip on bumpers at my local dealer the other day but don't think they would work on all docks/piers.. Full length strip would be better, shouldn't be hard to attach..
 
They don't have rub rails? Strange. My rub rails got pretty chewed up once when I docked overnight at this hotel. A mistake I surely won't make again!
 
I hear you but if the 130 2007 is $11k used why would you pay that for something 4 plus years old

I don't know what the $11k is in reference too. Went and looked at new sea doos and the loaded 3 up spark is about $8100, the gts130 was $8800. It's a give and take on some options but I like the feel of the 130. Glad the issue on the barnacles came up too. Even beach "parking " could be an issue with scratches.
 
whoa whoa whoa! A 130 for $11K??? HUH? Are we talking about the 2007 GTI here? Those were like $9k new! They got for $4k around the east coast. Why bother? For $5k you can get a nice supercharged RXP, which I think there is one year where they're pretty short. Might actually make a fun ski, esp with all that power...

Waaait, you're talking about NZ prices aren't you? If you're considering buying a 4-tec, look into the timing chain issue they had with those motors. I think there was one year where they were particularly weak. They even have a new part number for it now.
 
Lou yes a 07 used gti130 is 11k nz and a newc1 is between 17k-19k.

So the rxp is longer or shorter than an rx? More info please. And are they a 4tec? Sorry I'm a noooooooob.
 
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