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Gonna put new boat to me on water for first time. Plan on doing plugs, changing oil, this weekend. Just wanna make sure no big mechanical issues first. Anything I should check first? Was last on water last August, end of last year.
Anything typically get stopped up on these boats? I've owned quite a few 2 stroke pwc(mostly Yamaha gpr)

Thanks in advance!!! Will also be becoming a premium member also, definitely want the manual

Sorry, thought my boat would show up. 2001 challenger 2000. Efi m2 engine.
 
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Make sure you install the rear drain plugs. I would back it down the ramp and start it up while on the trailer. Open the hatches and look fro anything that does not seem right. Water leaks, oil issues, water in the hull, ect ,ect
 
Agreed with Coastiejoe but also pre start at house so you don't clog up boat ramp will trying to fiddle with engine issues.
 
Started on hose for about 10 sec, keep reading the mercs will overheat on hosw unless it's better than volume through hose.
Anything to check on oil system to make sure nothing clogged? No pisser ports to make sure are clear?
 
The Merc engines are different than the Seadoo engines. With the Merc, it goes WATER first, then start engine, the turn off engine, then turn off water..

Just in case you were not aware of this,,,
 
A compression test will usually show the "health" these 2-strokes. Also, if you don't know the last service, you should service the drive (change drive/stator oil). There are 2 fuel filters (one inline and a water separating filter). Otherwise, like other members have pointed out, check the hull for leaks both water incoming and any fluid leaks from the powerhead.
 
Well maiden voyage had its ups and downs but overall went OK. I'm very easy on watercraft , normally cruising skis around 3800-4000 rpms and boats around 3500 rpms. This one revs out good to around 6100. I didn't do a top speed run, felt around mid 40's. GPS was cooperating on phone but I've had enough pwc and boats to get pretty close. I'd imagine around 50mph top speed. That's the good

Bad is
1 hard restarts.
2starter clicked a few times and didn't turn over(I'll determine if starter or solenoid
3when goin upwards of 40, proposed bad! I've had several supercharged swapped gpr pwr that did the same from a lower speed if throttled too quickly. Could feel entire boatbcome out of water was ver windy though
5 throttle still freaking sticks.
6. Seems to want to pull to the right
7. The direction lever jumps /vibrates when excekerating. That looks to be maybe a loose cable for f/n/r cable.

Any of these cmmon issues? I'm gonna change oils and put in fresh plugs now that I know it's mechanically good
 
Bad is
1 hard restarts.
2starter clicked a few times and didn't turn over(I'll determine if starter or solenoid
3when goin upwards of 40, proposed bad! I've had several supercharged swapped gpr pwr that did the same from a lower speed if throttled too quickly. Could feel entire boatbcome out of water was ver windy though
5 throttle still freaking sticks.
6. Seems to want to pull to the right
7. The direction lever jumps /vibrates when excekerating. That looks to be maybe a loose cable for f/n/r cable.

Any of these cmmon issues? I'm gonna change oils and put in fresh plugs now that I know it's mechanically good

1) Check engine temp sensor is okay or replace, is it easier to start with some throttle applied, (10~30%) for more air?
2) - Solenoid
3) - Adding weight of all your gear might help
5) Don't overlook the linkage that goes up to the ignition pickup under the flywheel, this linkage rotates the pickup to advance the ignition timing.
6) Normal, get used to it or install the no-feedback helm steering box.
7) Agree, maybe cable isn't fully lifting the reverse bucket?
 
If you do not run the blower for 4 or 5 minutes it will cause a hard restart situation. The blower not only clears the bilge of fumes, but pulls fresh air into the hulk. The motor needs the fresh air.
 
Yes. Seems to start with throttle added. I build racecars and always isolate the temp sensor away from the aluminum intake. I'm gonna try that tomorrow before replacing the sensor(i can't get one tomorrow). In my experience the older a sensor gets the more prone to hestsoak, replacing will usually work for a while. Isolating it from the heat seems to be a permanent fix.
I'm hoping it's just the solenoid. Hard to verify at this point since so intermittent
Yea, I figured with just me in it it was leaning
It's definitely the linkage that is cam operated sticking. I reach in and push it back down by hand and it goes down. Im going to try lubing it and hope for the best. Possibly a new slightly stronger tension spring
I'll look into the no feedback steering
The bucket goes up and slightly above the jet output cone, but I don't think it's quite far enough
 
One thing I forgot to mention. I get the oil lamp on and a continuous beep beep beep beep beep beep, etc.. Oil levels are good and boat has 1/2 tank of fuel. It does go stop and light flickers sometimes if I hit a wake. Sounds like a level /float sensor issue. Will fuel level cause this alarm?
 
Sorry I'm late to this party. I just got home from a job. (was gone for a week)


OK... before we get too deep into things... what engine do you have? the 20' challenger could have the 200 Opti, or 240 EFI. That's a biggy as far as the hard start.

Speed and RPM seem good for either engine.

The "Beep-Beep" is concerning. Unfortunately... since Merc built the engine, and Seadoo built the rest of the electronics... there is some confusion on things. The light with the oil can isn't necessarily an oil warning. The icon should be a bell. The warning could be an over-temp, low oil, water in fuel, low voltage, or low fuel. over temp is a constant beep, so we can rule that out. Since it seems like bouncing trips it... then I would lean toward oil, or water in fuel. (or just a loose wire somewhere) SO.....

1) Check over all the wires by the engine, and look for anything loose. OR... open, and re-seat any plugs you can see. Sometimes you just get a little corrosion, and pulling connections apart fixes them.

2) There are 2 tanks for oil on your engine. One is the main tank, and there isn't a sensor in it. The sender is in the header tank. Make sure it's full. If the oil has dye in it (most do) the tank could be stained, so make sure... 100% it's full. The oil sender almost never goes bad, but it can be checked with a meter. (it's a simple switch)

3) The water in fuel sender is in the bottom of the spin on filter. (it's a filter/water trap) Since the boat is new to you, I would get a new filter. Draining it almost never gets all of the water out. The new filter will come with a new sender. The easy way to check it is to pull the wire off the bottom, and go for a ride.


Regardless... we need to isolate where the issue is. You don't want to burn up the engine over something simple.



As far as the hard restart.... as Coastie said... without a doubt... the bilge fan is your friend. AND, the Merc boats are less tolerant to bad air. When I first put my boat back together... I would fight hard re-starts. Then I realized I needed to run the fan... my engine will re-start with a 1 second crank. Also, as mentioned... if you have the 240 engine... that engine has 2 temps senders. The one on the port side of the engine is actually tired into the TPS, and is used to "Trim" the fuel. When it goes bad, the fuel goes rich, and re-starts are a pain. Also... it will be EXTRA smoky, and burn more fuel. (But 2-strokes are smoky when cold regardless) Now... to your comment about moving a temp sender from an aluminum intake... well... that's just silly. BECAUSE... both temp senders are in the heads on your engine. (and heat soak wouldn't be an issue if you would wrap your racecar's exhaust)

Unlike a car... these engines are always wet... so before replacing starter parts... I would just clean the connections at the starter, and solenoid.


What's left.....

OK... the pulling to the right is kind of normal. It can be adjusted by tweaking the ride plate. There are 2 screws that will allow you to adjust it. you can also drop it down some to help with the high-speed bounce. BUT... just moving a passenger to the front will normally take care of that too. (generally it's a balance problem)

AND... as far as the control lever bouncing... that's normal in a tight turn, but not if you are going straight. If it is... it's not locking in the up position. It may just need an adjustment.


Anyway... hope that gives you a place to start.
 
I put my replys in bold in your quote. Hope its easy to read. Thanks for your time!

Sorry I'm late to this party. I just got home from a job. (was gone for a week)

All good brotha, hope the new job is great

OK... before we get too deep into things... what engine do you have? the 20' challenger could have the 200 Opti, or 240 EFI. That's a biggy as far as the hard start.

Its the merc m2 240hp EFI. I put that in the first post, but its hidden at the bottom after an edit about 5 mins after I made the post. Sorry about that

Speed and RPM seem good for either engine.

The "Beep-Beep" is concerning. Unfortunately... since Merc built the engine, and Seadoo built the rest of the electronics... there is some confusion on things. The light with the oil can isn't necessarily an oil warning. The icon should be a bell. The warning could be an over-temp, low oil, water in fuel, low voltage, or low fuel. over temp is a constant beep, so we can rule that out. Since it seems like bouncing trips it... then I would lean toward oil, or water in fuel. (or just a loose wire somewhere) SO.....

actually the lamp and beep sometimes STOPS beeping/lamp goes out, if I turn the boat to the right and sometimes the beeping stops/light goes out if I hit a wake. Not always, but sometimes

1) Check over all the wires by the engine, and look for anything loose. OR... open, and re-seat any plugs you can see. Sometimes you just get a little corrosion, and pulling connections apart fixes them.

Ill do that, makes sense. lots of vibration and condensation. Wouldnt be a bad idea to go ahead and dialectric everything while Im in the connections

2) There are 2 tanks for oil on your engine. One is the main tank, and there isn't a sensor in it. The sender is in the header tank. Make sure it's full. If the oil has dye in it (most do) the tank could be stained, so make sure... 100% it's full. The oil sender almost never goes bad, but it can be checked with a meter. (it's a simple switch)

Before going any further, I have seen the oil level(in main tank) go down and the boat has the typical 2 stroke smokey exhaust. Im certain its getting oil BUT as you said that doesnt mean its not a level sensor for the oil. For what its worth and if it helps having more info, I get the beeping even without the engine running. I removed the cap, held the float up and just key on/engine off and still get the beeping. Ill ohm it out to make sure the sensor itself isnt bad. Something I noticed, which so far hasnt made a difference, other than the beeping/light doesnt stop even if i turn or hit wakes, when i filled the main tank, it releaved pressure. Is there anything I have to do to represureize or does it do it on its own once the engine starts?

3) The water in fuel sender is in the bottom of the spin on filter. (it's a filter/water trap) Since the boat is new to you, I would get a new filter. Draining it almost never gets all of the water out. The new filter will come with a new sender. The easy way to check it is to pull the wire off the bottom, and go for a ride.

I figured thats how that worked so I unplugged it and beeping/light still on

Regardless... we need to isolate where the issue is. You don't want to burn up the engine over something simple.

Agreed, its always the ID10T problems that cost the most to fix lol

As far as the hard restart.... as Coastie said... without a doubt... the bilge fan is your friend. AND, the Merc boats are less tolerant to bad air. When I first put my boat back together... I would fight hard re-starts. Then I realized I needed to run the fan... my engine will re-start with a 1 second crank. Also, as mentioned... if you have the 240 engine... that engine has 2 temps senders. The one on the port side of the engine is actually tired into the TPS, and is used to "Trim" the fuel. When it goes bad, the fuel goes rich, and re-starts are a pain. Also... it will be EXTRA smoky, and burn more fuel. (But 2-strokes are smoky when cold regardless) Now... to your comment about moving a temp sender from an aluminum intake... well... that's just silly. BECAUSE... both temp senders are in the heads on your engine. (and heat soak wouldn't be an issue if you would wrap your racecar's exhaust)

First off, good catch on the temp sensor getting heat soaked and isolating it from the head. I had been drinking and was refering to auxilery pressure sensors, they are heat sensitive. I actually caught it the next day but noone else mentioned it so I didnt bother to edit. Blame Fireball on that one. (and the cars I build actually do have head coated and wrapped, there 1000+ turbo inline 6 engines).
Getting back on track, I have read about the 3 wire temp sensor going bad and causing it to run rich. This could very well be my issue. I can smoke up a dock with 2 stroke oil on a restart lol! I tried the fan, didnt fix. I even opened the cover, letting nothing but fresh air in and its not much/if any better at restarts. If I give it a little throttle that seems to help some but usually letting it sit a few mins helps more than anything. Im really leaning towards temp sensor at this point and checking everything else that can be adjusted. In my experience people will start tweaking anything that can be adjusted, normally by eye or by ear vs setting to manual specs so I wouldnt be suprised if things are misadjusted by this point. It does however seem to get up on plane and take the fuel pretty good



Unlike a car... these engines are always wet... so before replacing starter parts... I would just clean the connections at the starter, and solenoid.

Unfortunately the starter bendix gear has seen better days. The root cause is the solenoid, I jumped it and the starter turns. Good and bad news, good news is Im sure the solenoid is the root cause, bad news is the bendix gear has so much wear it will sometimes stick to the flywheel teeth. Afraid both need to be replaced at this point to do a complete fix. Would be nice to find a replacement bendix, but sometimes its not available seperate.

What's left.....

OK... the pulling to the right is kind of normal. It can be adjusted by tweaking the ride plate. There are 2 screws that will allow you to adjust it. you can also drop it down some to help with the high-speed bounce. BUT... just moving a passenger to the front will normally take care of that too. (generally it's a balance problem)

I actually recentered the stearing and it now pulls slightly to the left, Ill just split the difference with the adjustments I made and it should be about as good as its gonna get. A lot of my issue is the bushing on the "cone" bottom is missing, so the cone is allowed to move up and down more than normal. Ill make a bushing and install it without removing the "cone" so that will help a lot and may even fix the issue below

AND... as far as the control lever bouncing... that's normal in a tight turn, but not if you are going straight. If it is... it's not locking in the up position. It may just need an adjustment.

I adjusted as much as I could, its much better but I can still see it vibrate slightly. This could very well be fixed once I install the new bushing. Ill make it out of composite bearing material. Its a little stiffer than eurothane and Ive had great luck with bushings made out of it in the past (I actually own a machine fabrication shop, so machining new parts or modifying parts is not an issue)

Anyway... hope that gives you a place to start.

Thanks a ton for all your answers. I have a lot of mechanical/electrical experience, race cars, general auto, boats(IO/OB ONLY) and lots of jet ski experience but a lot of my issues are boat or engine specific. I am going to download the manual, my boat actually came with a seadoo cd rom, Im assuming this is the repair manual on a CD(no clue where it was purchased)
 
Sorry about giving you grief on the heat soak thing. From your screen name, I figured you were a 2JZT guy. (lol) I'm a B16 guy. (if you noticed my screen name) But, the design of any in-line 6 is so strong... that they make a great platform for power.


OK... let's get to it.....


The port side temp sender is kind of cheap, (less than $40) and I tell people to replace it any time there is an issue. Basically... if it checks out that yours is OK... it's such a common problem, that it's good to have an extra on the shelf. Oh... and the electrical grease is good too. So, if you are pulling the plugs apart... then yes... grease will prevent future issues.


On the oil tank:

The system works on pressure, and since you notice the pressure releasing is a good thing. Basically the "Mercury" oil tank is the header tank on the engine. And, as you already found... it has the sender. If you check it with a meter... down is open, and up is closed. (just a switch)

The system works from crank pressure. It pressurizes the main tank, and that pushes the oil to the header tank. BUT, the header tank DOES NOT have a way to purge out air. So, if it's only half full... it will continue to run that way. (more or less) So, if the tank was low, it could have been tripping the "Beep-Beep". So, fill the tank almost to the top, and put the cap on tight. (You want a small air bubble in the top just for expansion) As an FYI... there is a 2 psi check valve on the feed hose, and it will open if there isn't any pressure in the system, and that allows the header tank to drain, as the engine drinks from it. So, when it goes down after an issue... you have to manually refill the header.

With that info out there... it is critical you make sure the fill cap, to the main tank has a good o-ring, and that it's tight. If you lose too much pressure, it won't feed the header. (and will make a mess from oil spray) AND... make sure the header tank has a good gasket on it. When that cap leaks, it will make an oil mess in the bilge !!


On the starter:

OK... I get it. Heat, vibration and water are hard on things. The nice thing with Mercury is that the starter is a rebuildable part !! So... take it apart, clean it up, and you can order parts for it. If it's a lost cause... DO NOT buy an aftermarket starter. They all SUCK ! The OEM is expensive, so if you need a replacement, look on eBay for a good use OEM.



On the Drive:

If you have the cable adjusted, and the up lock is engaged... then it's fine. I notice a small amount of vibration in my control handle, and that's normal... but it can "Kick" or "Buck" in a sharp turn. That's normal too... and that's why the lock is there. So it can't pull itself into reverse. Now... there is a drag control in the lever assembly. If you pull it up out of the hull... you can tighten it some, and that may keep it from visually moving.

I think you have the answer on the ride plate... so keep adjusting it... and I'm sure you will find the happy point. But, I wouldn't get too crazy with it. Once you putt a couple buddies on the opposite side... it may pull the other way. (balance is everything)




Final note:

Since you ruled out the water trap, and temp... before your next outing... top off the fuel tank. Lets eliminate the low fuel thing too. (but I'm assuming your fuel gauge is working, an we know that the sender is working too)
 
Sorry about giving you grief on the heat soak thing. From your screen name, I figured you were a 2JZT guy. (lol) I'm a B16 guy. (if you noticed my screen name) But, the design of any in-line 6 is so strong... that they make a great platform for power.

Its all good bud, I would have had my fun with you also if you had said that lol. And yessir, thats about all I do now is 2jz supras or 2jz based engine swapped cars/trucks

OK... let's get to it.....


The port side temp sender is kind of cheap, (less than $40) and I tell people to replace it any time there is an issue. Basically... if it checks out that yours is OK... it's such a common problem, that it's good to have an extra on the shelf. Oh... and the electrical grease is good too. So, if you are pulling the plugs apart... then yes... grease will prevent future issues.

Yea, Im gonna grab one of those asap. I still need to pull the engine ID off of it to make sure I get the correct one. From reading, not all 2001 mercs use the same. Will verify before purchase


On the oil tank:

The system works on pressure, and since you notice the pressure releasing is a good thing. Basically the "Mercury" oil tank is the header tank on the engine. And, as you already found... it has the sender. If you check it with a meter... down is open, and up is closed. (just a switch)

The system works from crank pressure. It pressurizes the main tank, and that pushes the oil to the header tank. BUT, the header tank DOES NOT have a way to purge out air. So, if it's only half full... it will continue to run that way. (more or less) So, if the tank was low, it could have been tripping the "Beep-Beep". So, fill the tank almost to the top, and put the cap on tight. (You want a small air bubble in the top just for expansion) As an FYI... there is a 2 psi check valve on the feed hose, and it will open if there isn't any pressure in the system, and that allows the header tank to drain, as the engine drinks from it. So, when it goes down after an issue... you have to manually refill the header.

With that info out there... it is critical you make sure the fill cap, to the main tank has a good o-ring, and that it's tight. If you lose too much pressure, it won't feed the header. (and will make a mess from oil spray) AND... make sure the header tank has a good gasket on it. When that cap leaks, it will make an oil mess in the bilge !!

Oil level is good, I verified this. Ill ohm the sensor out as soon as I have a little time. This is my "long" weekend at work, I should have time to do it tomorrow. Guess my basic question is what all sends this alarm. Gas level/oil level, anything else? Will kind of help me narrow down what to look for.

On the starter:

OK... I get it. Heat, vibration and water are hard on things. The nice thing with Mercury is that the starter is a rebuildable part !! So... take it apart, clean it up, and you can order parts for it. If it's a lost cause... DO NOT buy an aftermarket starter. They all SUCK ! The OEM is expensive, so if you need a replacement, look on eBay for a good use OEM.

noted to stick with oem if there is mechanical housing/shaft breakage and I cant rebuild. Normally I will make my own contacts for starters, Ive had great luck with this and not having to wait. Plus I know I get good metal. I can always order the brushes if there worn as well. Honestly the only wear I see is on the gear itself, and its not bad, just has a lip that can catch the bottom of the flywheel teeth. May polish them down, clean and lube bendix shaft and replace the solenoid. Searching online it shows the solenoids have a plug, mine has small and big studs instead. Id love to be able to source this locally, any others seem to work for us??

On the Drive:

If you have the cable adjusted, and the up lock is engaged... then it's fine. I notice a small amount of vibration in my control handle, and that's normal... but it can "Kick" or "Buck" in a sharp turn. That's normal too... and that's why the lock is there. So it can't pull itself into reverse. Now... there is a drag control in the lever assembly. If you pull it up out of the hull... you can tighten it some, and that may keep it from visually moving.

I think you have the answer on the ride plate... so keep adjusting it... and I'm sure you will find the happy point. But, I wouldn't get too crazy with it. Once you putt a couple buddies on the opposite side... it may pull the other way. (balance is everything)

good point, seems there is never a perfect place as it changes with conditions. I made new bushings today, I know that couldnt have been helping having the cone moving up and down full play


Final note:

Since you ruled out the water trap, and temp... before your next outing... top off the fuel tank. Lets eliminate the low fuel thing too. (but I'm assuming your fuel gauge is working, an we know that the sender is working too)

Fuel level works, well works as good as any boat Ive had to date. Shows around 3/8 when flat and around 1/2ish plus when moving. Any clue which is the float level sensor wire? Not to the gauge but a lot of applications have the level sensor to gauge and a low level float, supras are bad about this from time to time also lol
 
The warning system is pretty basic. The control unit itself is a small box mounted below the ECU. It can warn you of:

1) Low oil. It will be 4 beeps, with a 2 minute pause.

2) Over heat. It's a continuous beep. (not beeping, just on)

3) Water in fuel. constant beeping.


Eventhough, each has it's own pattern, if it's on the edge of the safe/warning zone... it can make the pattern sound wrong. so then best thing to do is verify things by:

1) Make sure that header tank is full, and not leaking.

2) take an IR temp gun out with you, and check the head, and block temps.

3) check for water, and replace the filter.


Those are the engine warnings. There can also be a couple more beeps. those are:

A) Low voltage. This warning is so you don't kill your battery while sitting, and enjoying the day. Normally it's heard while sitting, but I would put a volt meter on the battery, and make sure you are charging.

B) Low fuel. It's the one to most likely trip while you are moving, since the fuel tank doesn't have a baffle. It should trip at 1/8th of a tank, but it's know to sound closer to 1/4 tank. As far as your question on the sender wire... I'm not quite sure what you're asking. You should be able to see the wires coming out of the sender, on the tank.


On some boats (depending on the year and the model) there may be a switch on the dash that can silent the fuel and low voltage warning. SO... if you hear the beeps... look at the switches, and see if there is one that is lit up. (I'll assume that most of the switch icons are faded)


The Starter:

The solenoid isn't anything special. It's just a high current contactor. So... you could use a "Ford" solenoid, but most car contactors aren't really up to "Boat" duty. If it's questionable... I would head to your local boat shop, and find something suitable.

On the starter gear... I would just use a small file, and take off any sharp edges, and call it a day.
 
The warning system is pretty basic. The control unit itself is a small box mounted below the ECU. It can warn you of:

1) Low oil. It will be 4 beeps, with a 2 minute pause.

I dont get 4 beeps then pause, mine is continuous

2) Over heat. It's a continuous beep. (not beeping, just on)

I wouldnt think its overheating, it will usually do it as soon as the boat is turned to the run position, running or not. Thats not the say that the temp sensor couldnt be faulty sending an output telling it that its overheated even though its not. I thought I read you were stuck in "limp" mode if you get an overtemp fault?? Mine still runs great

3) Water in fuel. constant beeping.

This shouldnt be an issue, I unhooked the sensor wire and it still beeps

Eventhough, each has it's own pattern, if it's on the edge of the safe/warning zone... it can make the pattern sound wrong. so then best thing to do is verify things by:

Agreed on that, when the beep/light is on the edge of beeping/lighting, it would be very hard to diagnose what it was lol

1) Make sure that header tank is full, and not leaking.

Full and not leaking, but this should be a 4 beep and pause, assuming its not on the verge, i get a continuous beep, beep, etc..

2) take an IR temp gun out with you, and check the head, and block temps.

Ill try that, but like I said sometimes I get the alarm with the boat off and on a cold start(sat overnight). Is my thinking correct, I thought if it was an overtemp OR oil alarm it goes into a limp mode?

3) check for water, and replace the filter.


Those are the engine warnings. There can also be a couple more beeps. those are:

A) Low voltage. This warning is so you don't kill your battery while sitting, and enjoying the day. Normally it's heard while sitting, but I would put a volt meter on the battery, and make sure you are charging.

Ill check the battery, it seems to have no issue cranking though, but you never know

B) Low fuel. It's the one to most likely trip while you are moving, since the fuel tank doesn't have a baffle. It should trip
at 1/8th of a tank, but it's know to sound closer to 1/4 tank. As far as your question on the sender wire... I'm not quite sure what you're asking. You should be able to see the wires coming out of the sender, on the tank.

A quick glance and I see the fuel pump wiring(3 wires), is there another set of wires running into the fuel tank just for the gauge and the low level sensor? Normally fuel tanks have the pump wiring, the wiring to the float and the wiring to a low level sensor. This is how a lot of cars can show a half tank of fuel but the low fuel light be on. Two seperate circuits


On some boats (depending on the year and the model) there may be a switch on the dash that can silent the fuel and low voltage warning. SO... if you hear the beeps... look at the switches, and see if there is one that is lit up. (I'll assume that most of the switch icons are faded)

Ill look through the manual

The Starter:

The solenoid isn't anything special. It's just a high current contactor. So... you could use a "Ford" solenoid, but most car contactors aren't really up to "Boat" duty. If it's questionable... I would head to your local boat shop, and find something suitable.

On the starter gear... I would just use a small file, and take off any sharp edges, and call it a day.

Yea, Ill see what my local dealer has
 
Ok, little more "data"

The beep/oil flashing seems to be cured by lightly cracking the oil resivoir(on the engine itself), it fills to the complete top again, closing lid tight and fault seems to go away. Thats why it seems to trigger in different conditons. Im assuming the original sensor is going bad as the level is still very high, just not at the absolute, will run over top.

I checked the port head sensor and it was "decently" close, but wasnt 100% accurate, while Im waiting for the new one to come in. I am hoping that fixes the hot start issue

Still very smokey at idle,(2 stroke smoke) I am going to check the oil injector marks and verify they are correct. It could be the TPS out of adjustment.

One thing I noticed, the manual calls for the idle to be at 1000-1100, mine is at 600ish. I normally just keep the lever at around 1000, Ill adjust the idle screw to correct this. I didnt realize idle was supposed to be so high(comparably speaking of course)

I also have to adjust the ride plate, unfortunatly the two phillips head screws are almost stripped. Gonna heat and possibly have to drill heads off and remove with vice grips. I am contemplating making a bolt on cnc aluminum "wedge" so I dont have to worry about possibly having a big problem and missing out on boating if something goes terribly wrong.

Overall, getting a lot closer, runs great overall, just smokey, bouncy and doesnt want to start when warm lol!
 
The screws on the plate were held in place with thread locker. You need to heat them to degrade the thread locker.


The idle on a boat is higher than you would expect, but that helps with low RPM control. PWC are upward of 1500 RPM in the water. (out of the water is close to 3000 RPM) BUT, before you adjust the idle... do 2 things...

1) Verify the ignition timing at idle. If it's low, then adjusting it will raise the idle, and help with torque. (also verify full throttle timing)
2) Check the TPS voltage at idle. When the TPS or port side temp sender go bad... the idle RPM's will drop because the ECU will run the engine rich. (in turn you get hard starts, and lot's of smoke)


From the sounds of things... the oil sender is borderline bad. You shouldn't have to bleed out every last bubble to get it to close the switch. Anything over 3/4 should keep it quiet. But, if that makes it happy... then all the better I guess, since it will warn you early.
 
Yea, no clue why anyone would add lock nuts and thread locker to something that's meant to be adjusted, especially when using a Philips head screw but I'll heat it and give it a try. Just don't want to lose boating time if anything Murphy should happen like the section the screw is tapped into should break. I did however make a billet peice today, if the screws are stuck to the point of having to drill them out, I'll just throw it on and fix after the season. It will be the same as moving the trim down. About 1/2-5/8 inch, should be about right.

This one definitely idles at around 1000 on the hose and between 500-600 in water. And yea, once the head sensor gets in I'm gonna throw it in, even if it idles correctly and starts correctly I'm gonna check base and Max timing. Think max timing has to be checked on the water

Gonna check tps also

Agreed, I'd imagine the sensor is borderline
 
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One thing Im not sure of, are these not like normal boats where you can just set your throttle and let it go or is it like a jet ski and have to keep on the throttle?
 
The throttle should stay where you leave it. If it's not... then the drag on the lever needs adjusted.
 
Well I be damned. I assumed was like a freaking jetski and be cruising that way. Will definitely adjust that! I also made a adjustable extended ride plate today
 
Well I be damned. I assumed was like a freaking jetski and be cruising that way. Will definitely adjust that! I also made a adjustable extended ride plate today


Take the 4 screws out of the handle assembly, and lift it up out of the hull. Once out, you will see a plastic screw on the pivot section. Just make it a little tighter. not a big deal.
 
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