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need input on SBT engines
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They are one of the most recognized engine OEM specific remanufacturers in the U.S........
They have a nice one year warranty on the standard engine and two on the deluxe. I'd go with the deluxe because it comes with everything you need to install it, like the gasket kit and oils.......the gaskets are like $100 bucks alone.
I have had a few members complain about their core exchange. The price they quote you on the web site is for a good, rebuildable core. If your engine blew up and pushed a rod through the casing or if there is any major damage that will require them to repair that block or crankshaft, then you will have extra charges applied..........so, if you have any doubts to your exchange, give them a call on the toll free number from the web site and talk to a representative..........
I do use them frequently, not so much now that we have our own parts dealer here, but they do offer good products.........:cheers:
They are one of the most recognized engine OEM specific remanufacturers in the U.S........
They have a nice one year warranty on the standard engine and two on the deluxe. I'd go with the deluxe because it comes with everything you need to install it, like the gasket kit and oils.......the gaskets are like $100 bucks alone.
I have had a few members complain about their core exchange. The price they quote you on the web site is for a good, rebuildable core. If your engine blew up and pushed a rod through the casing or if there is any major damage that will require them to repair that block or crankshaft, then you will have extra charges applied..........so, if you have any doubts to your exchange, give them a call on the toll free number from the web site and talk to a representative..........
I do use them frequently, not so much now that we have our own parts dealer here, but they do offer good products.........:cheers:
Another thing to consider is to ask around locally. I know that SBT uses a lot of Chinese parts that are designed to their specs in their motors. I was looking at having my Kawi 900 rebuilt and it was going to run me $1590 for a 2yr warr rebuild and carb kits including shipping.
I have some work done at a local shop here in SA and he thought he could rebuild it for $1500 using OEM Kawi parts but I would still need the carb kit for $100. Just another avenue to explore and think about. Obviously it could cost more b/c he hasn't seen the engine yet but it burned a piston didn't mess up the cases.
I have heard good and bad with SBT but I think, like car engines, your money is spent during the break in period. Everyone wants to get their ski back and run it like you stole it right out of the box and that is just not good on a fresh motor imo. Treat it right by doing a proper breakin and continue maintence on it throughout each season and there isn't a reason why the motor should give you problems.
Another thing, if you're putting a fresh motor in take the time and money to rebuild your carb(s), money well spent. Think about it fresh motor on gummed up carbs could lead to a lean condition which will burn a piston in no time.
I have some work done at a local shop here in SA and he thought he could rebuild it for $1500 using OEM Kawi parts but I would still need the carb kit for $100. Just another avenue to explore and think about. Obviously it could cost more b/c he hasn't seen the engine yet but it burned a piston didn't mess up the cases.
I have heard good and bad with SBT but I think, like car engines, your money is spent during the break in period. Everyone wants to get their ski back and run it like you stole it right out of the box and that is just not good on a fresh motor imo. Treat it right by doing a proper breakin and continue maintence on it throughout each season and there isn't a reason why the motor should give you problems.
Another thing, if you're putting a fresh motor in take the time and money to rebuild your carb(s), money well spent. Think about it fresh motor on gummed up carbs could lead to a lean condition which will burn a piston in no time.
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when i fire my ski up i'm hearing a knocking noise sounds like its the bottom end,but when i bring the rpm's up the noise goes away until it ildols then its back.I had a problem with the starter one weekend. i was out on the ski and turned the the ski off for a rest and whrn i went to start it. it would not start only wine, so got home tore starter apart and found the armature had broke in 2 picese. ever since then the noice in the bottom end has bin there. so i'm assuming its the bottom end.
when i fire my ski up i'm hearing a knocking noise sounds like its the bottom end,but when i bring the rpm's up the noise goes away until it ildols then its back.I had a problem with the starter one weekend. i was out on the ski and turned the the ski off for a rest and whrn i went to start it. it would not start only wine, so got home tore starter apart and found the armature had broke in 2 picese. ever since then the noice in the bottom end has bin there. so i'm assuming its the bottom end.
fire up the ski in the water with it on trailer or tied to a piling. pull the seat and listen and wiggle stuff. i had an exhaust water box rattle at low rpm's went away as soon as i hit the gas. these motors don't usuially knock. they quietly sieze. just lose rpm's from full throttle to dead in about 15 seconds.
fireball451
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I just installed a SBT motor in my '99GTX Ltd. So far, everything has been good. I was a little worried at first when they told me it would be over 2 weeks as my guaranteed shipping date because the season is wrapping up. They said the wait was due to the 951 being a high-failure rate engine and lack of re-buildable cores. I went with a 2-year warranty. Was very suprised to see my engine arrive two days after the order! (FL to TN) I also did a carb re-build. Just finished my third break-in run. They offer fast shipping, an excellent tech page and forum, and good parts in stock. I ordered an alignment tool from them since it was not costing me much more than the local dealership wanted to do the alignment for. At this point, I am going to give them a thumbs up!
In any case a awrrenty is a good thing. If you get the 1 or 2 year from SBT. Do what they say for break in then run it a good amount before your warrenty is up. For the most part if you get through the break in and ass some hours on to that and have no problems you are in the clear. Normally engine failure is due to something build or machined wrong adn you will find hat early on in the life of the engine.
roneagan@cfl.rr.com
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I just bought an SBT engine.. I hope to have it running this weekend.. I had a couple of unusable parts so I went to ebay to pick up a couple of decent pieces for the core.. It's much cheaper then paying their prices.. I will let you know how it all turns out.. The biggest pain I ran into with the old core was getting the flywheel and PTO off.. I ended up making a tool to hold the flywheel from turning while removing the PTO, it was a great help.. The flywheel wasn't to bad, but you will most likely need heat to break the loctite
seal on both the PTO and flywheel.. I will post a picture later today of the tools I made.. I also made a puller for the pump, I could not get that sucker to move without it..
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seal on both the PTO and flywheel.. I will post a picture later today of the tools I made.. I also made a puller for the pump, I could not get that sucker to move without it..
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Rags.......
If you ever run into that problem again, removing the PTO or Mag flywheels, that's what the forum is for, asking........
I havd an old trusty, standard gear puller I used in removing the mag flywheel. Here, you have to be careful, since most want to remove the armature of the magneto stator to get the nut off. If you do, I hope you marked it, because that is the only true "hard" timing this engine has.
To remove the PTO flywheel, you have to remove the exhaust manifold first, then, with the piston on the down stroke, shove a shop rag or two inside the compression chamber. Then, as you turn the PTO with a pipe wrench (careful of the zirc fitting), the rags will jam the crankshaft from moving. Then, with a little elbow grease, it should pop right off.
I do agree with you on the Loctite. A little heat will break that bond though. I keep one of those cheap "Walmart" special butance torches in the shop, just for that stuff (oh, and the kids like to melt glass bottles and stretch the necks..LOL...).
Good luck with the new motor!.........:cheers:
If you ever run into that problem again, removing the PTO or Mag flywheels, that's what the forum is for, asking........
I havd an old trusty, standard gear puller I used in removing the mag flywheel. Here, you have to be careful, since most want to remove the armature of the magneto stator to get the nut off. If you do, I hope you marked it, because that is the only true "hard" timing this engine has.
To remove the PTO flywheel, you have to remove the exhaust manifold first, then, with the piston on the down stroke, shove a shop rag or two inside the compression chamber. Then, as you turn the PTO with a pipe wrench (careful of the zirc fitting), the rags will jam the crankshaft from moving. Then, with a little elbow grease, it should pop right off.
I do agree with you on the Loctite. A little heat will break that bond though. I keep one of those cheap "Walmart" special butance torches in the shop, just for that stuff (oh, and the kids like to melt glass bottles and stretch the necks..LOL...).
Good luck with the new motor!.........:cheers:
roneagan@cfl.rr.com
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I already had the top end of the motor apart so it made things a little more difficult! I was going to rebuild the top end, but I decided I would do the motor.. I bought it with the broken motor, the more I got into it the more I found wrong!!! I did get it started to day and all seems well.. Just a few things to do before I put it in the water for a test run….
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roneagan@cfl.rr.com
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I have the new SBT engine running and all seems well, It fired after about three cranks of the starter... I had it in the water once but had a problem with the carbs (bad Fuel Lines).. Now that is all fixed I will give it a good test this weekend..... 
robin savell lloyd
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Good luck:cheers:I have the new SBT engine running and all seems well, It fired after about three cranks of the starter... I had it in the water once but had a problem with the carbs (bad Fuel Lines).. Now that is all fixed I will give it a good test this weekend.....
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