Nauticus Mobster Tabs Installed on a Speedster 200

[bo799]

They are the mobster tabs with the 80lb actuators and it was 189.99 from ebuyersworld.com. I think I will be trying the 60lb actuators soon. Just not enough room to get the full adjustment out of it. It is a very tight install and it took two full days to do it. I am very happy with the new ride. On a choppy day the boat is almost perfect (for a 20ft boat anyway). There is zero bow rise and absolutely no more porpoise. You can race other boats in choppy water now. On a calm day it wants to chine walk at normal speeds but is perfect at wot. I think the 60lb actuators will help this. It changes everything about how the boat handles. The slow speed RH turns put the rub rail in the water and it doesn't want to turn. You can make it happen with the throttle. The throttles are used a lot more in turns now. If you do it right it spins out a lot better with the tabs. I have a usable boat now for less than 200 bucks. I was going to sell it because the porpoising was so bad. Seadoo was absolutely no help when I called the factory. The dealers are even worse. Horrible experience trying to get factory help so I just fixed it myself. My next boat will not be a seadoo.

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[hoffnasty]

did you lose anything off your top speed?

 

[bo799]

I started with the 80lb actuators and and top speed went from 63 to 58. The boat had some really bad slow speed handling problems. I switched to 60lb actuators and the low speed handling problems are almost gone and top speed is 61 now. Still a great help to the boat. No porpoising.

 

[hoffnasty]

sounds awesome!...are they a pain in the ass to install?...any instruction on how to do so?...unfortunately, I'm not very mechanically gifted

 

[bo799]

Yes they were pretty tough to install. There are no directions because no one has ever put them on this boat and it is not a typical install. I spent several days on it. I would not try it if you are not to mechanically inclined. If you do decide to do it I will be glad to help any way I can.

 

[hoffnasty]

i have a buddy who is mechanically inclined...i'm gonna try it...so i should get the MT1080-60 Mobster Tabs trim tabs (the 60 means 60lb actuator right?)

 

[bo799]

Yes the -60 is the 60lb actuators. I like them a lot better than the -80's. I am thinking that I am going to try the -40's soon just to see. I ran just shy of 61 the other day loaded down which tells me the tab is still in the water a little bit. I just like to play around and try different things. You will like the -60's. When y'all get ready to start it send me a pm and I will email some better pictures and maybe it will help a little. I can talk to your buddy and at least tell him what I did. Keep me posted.

 

[deddy]

Do you have any measurements on the Nauticus actuator? Like how long is it? How wide at the widest point? Is the 60lb actuator the same length as the 40lb actuator? I was looking to do a similar setup with those tabs but I was thinking about getting a "connector" made that would be secured to the lower inside bolt above the ride plate and it would extend up a bit for the actuator to attach to. The "connector" would simply slip on the bolt and I'd add another locknut and maybe some locktite. Would that bolt be strong enough? I would think so....

Thanks a bunch

 

[bo799]

I can't Picture the bolt you are talking about. All actuators are the same size/length. Here is a diagram and it says they are all 10in long. I have my 80lb ones in the garage and I will see if that is total length or eye to eye. 10in runs mine up to the middle of the pump. i tried to find a way to mount it to a pump bolt and could not figure a way out. I have the boat at home right now so let me know if there is something you want a closer picture of.
http://www.nauticusinc.com/pdf/ss_smart_tabs_dimensions.pdf

 

[deddy]

Thanks a lot man you got back to me super fast. Its the lower inside mounting bolt, its too low I'm sure to work which is why I was hoping I could get a machine shop around here to make me a shaped plate (that extends up a few inches) that would have a hole to fit over the bolt and would be secured with a nut. The other end of the plate would have holes that would fit the actuator. Maybe a pipe dream, I know. I was also looking at http://www.lectrotab.com/products/short-style-trim-tab-actuators.php which is about the same length as the Nauticus actuators (I'd love to have control of the tabs if possible). I know everyone says a electric or hydraulic actuators don't fit, but if they are the same dimentions or pretty close wouldn't it work? The other problem for my boat is that I have the Cobrajet Steering plates on it so I'd probably have to go with a small size plate to be sure it wouldn't get in the way like the 7"x8". Which might make everything harder or impossible. Anyway I don't want to waste your time. But it is nice to hear some feedback bo799. I want to do them but I might wait a while until I can make sure everything can work/fit etc. Thanks again.

 

[bo799]

Deddy I talked to an engineer at Bennett tabs about trying to get them on my boat. He really took a lot of time with me. I mocked up their actuators and tabs with cardboard and they were just to big around to fit by the pump. The problem is e width of the actuators. The nauticus actuators are about as big around as a strut that holds open the rear hatch of a car. That is all they are is a gas strut. They wanted to keep the mounting tab in the center of the plate also. I would love to have control over the tabs too. On smooth water my boat wants to chine walk at 25-30mph. After 30mph it stops. Mounting the bracket to the hull was not that bad once you removed the steering and reducer. I tried to figure out a bracket and just couldn't make it fit. So I just got the drill out and put some holes in the boat. Nauticus tech support was a really big help to me too.
Why did you do the cobra jet steering plates? These boats are so maneuverable. My dad had to add them to his Yamaha boat and it really helped a lot. Pm me if you get serious about the tabs and we will talk.

 

[deddy]

Thanks, ahh so its the width of the actuators that makes those a problem.

I added the cobra jet steering to get a bit better slow speed steering. Where I park the boat there can be heavy cross waves at times, I like the added steering.

So I have a question that is completley unrelated but maybe you could help or know someone I could ask. I just replaced the ballast pump on the boat and there must be a blown fuse that I need to find. Do you have any idea where the fuse for the ballast pump is located??

 

[bo799]

I have no idea on the ballast pump. I don't have one of those. Very sorry.

 

[Z_Monzter]

I started with the 80lb actuators and and top speed went from 63 to 58. The boat had some really bad slow speed handling problems. I switched to 60lb actuators and the low speed handling problems are almost gone and top speed is 61 now. Still a great help to the boat. No porpoising.

What? You have twin engines with over 400hp and your top speed is only 61 mph?!?!?!? That's crazy. My 150 speedster does 55mph with only 255hp, I would assume a speedster 200 could do at least 80 mph considering is twin engine and it cos 40k.

I'm just surprised.

 

[bo799]

What? You have twin engines with over 400hp and your top speed is only 61 mph?!?!?!? That's crazy. My 150 speedster does 55mph with only 255hp, I would assume a speedster 200 could do at least 80 mph considering is twin engine and it cos 40k.

Hp does not always equal speed. I am sure the is a big weight difference between the 150 and 200. With no trim tabs my boat ran 63mph. The new 510hp speedster 200 only does 65mph with 80 more hp. I wish I could go 80mph.

 

[Dr Honda]

Yep... what he said.

If you want more speed... you need more pump pressure. But, to do that... you will give up your hole shot. Also... the top RPM of the 215 and 260 engine is the same... so you aren't making any more velocity.

 

[Z_Monzter]

Hp does not always equal speed. I am sure the is a big weight difference between the 150 and 200. With no trim tabs my boat ran 63mph. The new 510hp speedster 200 only does 65mph with 80 more hp. I wish I could go 80mph.

Man, no offense but I just don't see the reason to buy the 200 considering that you are paying 40k for it or more if you got the tower. For that price I much rather buy a 230 Wake.

Don't get me wrong, it is a nice boat but pricey IMO.

 

[cycleguy88]

a 230wake is $55k, not $40k.

 

[BMANN06]

Re: Porposing

I just move people around in the boat until it goes away, heavy boyz in the rear put the kids and women up front ... problem solved.

Re: speedster 155 vs 200

Two totally different animals ... I see around 62-63 mph, but put the two boats side by side. The 200 will dwarf the 150/155s. Plus when you've got a full boat and a full ballast tank those two 215s pull up a skier/wakeboarder without any issues.

 

[Z_Monzter]

a 230wake is $55k, not $40k.

My bad, you are correct.

 

[Z_Monzter]

Re: Porposing

I just move people around in the boat until it goes away, heavy boyz in the rear put the kids and women up front ... problem solved.

Re: speedster 155 vs 200

Two totally different animals ... I see around 62-63 mph, but put the two boats side by side. The 200 will dwarf the 150/155s. Plus when you've got a full boat and a full ballast tank those two 215s pull up a skier/wakeboarder without any issues.

I'm not hating and I agree that they are two different boats. I just think the 200 is too expensive for what it is. I'm not a boat expert. It is a nice boat!!!