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97 GSX wont start in water

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carman14

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I've hit a wall on what to do with this ski, I've replaced the starter, starter solenoid,voltage regulator,battery,rotary valve,spark plugs and the compression in both cylinders is 150psi had the carbs rebuilt by the local dealer.. The ski starts great on land and idles at 3000 to 3200 on the trailer you back it in the water and it tries to start but never does. any help will be appreciated.
 
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OK good. I just had a similar issue with my speedster. On the trailer rpms were at 3000 but would not start in water. Turns out it had a misfire but its kinda hard to tell on 2 strokes. Check electrical box for water and cut your plug wires back 1/4in.
 
If you have compression, fuel and spark it MUST run unless there is a timing issue.

Does it still have Grey Tempo Fuel Lines?
 
So just a little more information needed. Does it crank well in the water, or is struggling to crank? Many problems with starting systems on these skis relate back to bad ground or hot wire connections. It may be that the extra load from the water is dropping the voltage enough to keep it from starting. I would check all the cable and connections. If it is cranking well, then you are back to fuel or spark. I am betting on the bad ground wire. You can temporarily use a jumper cable to make a ground path between the battery and the motor.
 
Do a compression test while in the water, that will answer a lot.

Leave one plug in and use the tester. This will show what the engine is really seeing.
 
Joe- what are you looking for here? Compression won't change in the water I don't think. He could check the battery voltage when cranking in the water but I don't get checking compression. Maybe I'm missing something.
 
Joe- what are you looking for here? Compression won't change in the water I don't think. He could check the battery voltage when cranking in the water but I don't get checking compression. Maybe I'm missing something.

It absolutely does change in the water. Has to do with the load of the impeller and the ability of the battery to surpass that load..
 
It absolutely does change in the water. Has to do with the load of the impeller and the ability of the battery to surpass that load..

Actually the compression won't change. The load of the water COULD show the compression lower if the starter is having trouble turning over the engine, but the compression done on the trailer will be what it is.

I have had a problem like this before, but need more info. Try this, can you start the ski up still strapped to the trailer, back it in to the water while it is still running and see if it will continue running or if it will die.

It is sounding to me like the battery might not have enough juice to make the ski start in the water. This happened to me on a GSX with a weak Walmart battery, in the water it didn't put out enough power to get the ski to spark. Out of the water it would fire up with less of a load.

Another ski I had where it would fire up out of the water, but not in the water, but I could start it up on trailer and back it into water and it would die unless giving it lots of throttle. It ended up being a bent rotary valve that wouldn't allow it to idle. It needs to be perfectly flat and in spec with the rotary valve cover.
 
Actually the compression won't change. The load of the water COULD show the compression lower if the starter is having trouble turning over the engine, but the compression done on the trailer will be what it is.

I have had a problem like this before, but need more info. Try this, can you start the ski up still strapped to the trailer, back it in to the water while it is still running and see if it will continue running or if it will die.

It is sounding to me like the battery might not have enough juice to make the ski start in the water. This happened to me on a GSX with a weak Walmart battery, in the water it didn't put out enough power to get the ski to spark. Out of the water it would fire up with less of a load.

Another ski I had where it would fire up out of the water, but not in the water, but I could start it up on trailer and back it into water and it would die unless giving it lots of throttle. It ended up being a bent rotary valve that wouldn't allow it to idle. It needs to be perfectly flat and in spec with the rotary valve cover.
I think that will be my next step start it up on the trailer and back it in the water.. I was also told to buy a new rotary valve cover to eliminate that also
 
It will more then likely stay running. Take the battery out and have it load tested. Had a ski that would do the same thing. Bad battery.
 
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