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jeffyp

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new to the twin motor deal, just bought a 2012 210 wake and noticed I always have to have the wheel at 3 oclock to go straight

visual inspection the nozzles seem to be straight when the wheel is straight.

I have no power loss at all, full tank of gas I still hit 45 mph yesterday

what could be causing this tracking to the left??

im going to take a straight edge to the nozzles today and see if one is off but if it is it cant be off by much at all, can the slightest bit be causing it?
 
You could have a steering cable issue. If the mounting as failed, the housing moves instead of the internal cable due to the thrust load. When this happens, in theory you turn the wheel but not the nozzle as he cable housing moves instead.
 
I feel like I still move the nozzles with the wheel without play but how can I check to see if the housing let go?
 
jeffyp said:
I feel like I still move the nozzles with the wheel without play but how can I check to see if the housing let go?
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Have someone hold the nozzle in the middle. Then see if you can steer the handlebars. If so, something let go,,,
 
there seems to be the tiniest bit of play but nothing i would say would cause this. when i had it out today it almost looked like the propulsion was slightly turned right to keep the boat straight......

could a little bit of knicks in a wear ring or impeller cause this without loosing much top end speed/?
 
jeffyp said:
no, its the 2012 wake edition 210 boat

im going to pull the buckets and check my alignment for the pumps.

anyone know if little knicks in the impeller or wear ring would cause this ?
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Neither the wear ring or impeller would cause this.

I didn't realize we were in the boat section, sorry about that. That said, it is very common for a steering cable issue on boats to happen. A mounting bracket fails and the cable flexes.

There have been some that had the output fins broken off and get this caused the boat to "walk." But not cause a steering issue.
 
my thought process was if one of the impellers or wear rings had slightly more wear to them the output would be different in one of the motors creating the push. like my port side engine has some slight knicks in the impeller along with what looked to be a little bit of knicks in the wear ring. so if that pump was not pushing as much due to that wear on those the star engine would be pushing my boat to the left?
 
gb387 said:
I have a 2010 210 430hp and it does something similar. I have checked the steering it's tight centered and everything is secure. In my case I have chalked it up to a characteristic of my boat, it doesn't cause any issues for us. Below is a thread that talks about this same issue that might be of help to you.

https://www.seadooforum.com/showthr... annoying that I cant let go of the wheel lol
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I have the similar problem and in the same situation as jeffyp. That's why I love this site and Google.

I am also new to the boating and recently purchased a 2012 210 SP for my family. Being our first time out on the water this past saturday and sunday on a nearby lake. Slow speed was good. Steering at speed, I needed to be almost at "3 o-clock" position to keep the boat straight, otherwise would want to fade to Portside. Trying to turn right, it was difficult and would not want to turn. Turning left and the boat would turn on a dime. Boat was balanced for people seating as it was just my wife and I with our 2 young boys.

When cleaning up the boat yesterday, I did a quick check visually, and the nozzles seemed squared up, to the steering wheel at centre position, but I will use a metal flat bar to make sure there is 2 contacts on each nozzle.

When I bought the boat privately, I spoke to a dealer prior and he said look at the ring to check for wear and look at the impellers. They brought out a worn impeller setup to show me what bad looked like. To me on my boat it looked ok. This boat was always serviced at the dealer. It only had 44 hours on it when we purchased it.

I will take the feedback provided on this post and check mine out.
 
ive been going back and forth with my dealer I got this from also. I turned the nozzles ever so slightly toward each other seemed to help a little but im actually looking into the possiblitly my port side ride plate is sitting about 1/4 inch below the hull which might cause a drag issue... my starboard side is flush or just under the hull.

ive been through the check list of rpm's are equal, both pumps wear rings and impellers seem to be in equal decent shape. ive adjusted steering nozzles, im running out of reasons it could be happening other than a post I read about how the pumps load differently that can sometimes cause this
 
Depending on wind and speed, I may need to be in the 1-2:00 position to go straight. My pumps are aligned, and a brand new rack/steering cable. Since it is rack & pinion, there will be a slight amount of play that will get worse if the rack is not tight on the helm.

I always chalked it up to torque - two impellers spinning in the same direction. On an outboard boat, you's have props spinning in opposite directions to avoid the torque issue.

With a brand new steering cable and centered nozzles, my steering is like this:
[video=youtube;poEHlxaAvZ0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poEHlxaAvZ0[/video]
 
mine is around 3-4 position no matter what wind or weight, if i let go of the wheel she acts like im in nascar and starts making one big left turn. 20170517_183509.jpg20170517_183454.jpg


first image is my port side second is my starboard side. im wondering if it is creating a drag
 
so new theory im dealing with, someone was in these pumps before me and I did notice that seadoo did put different pitch impellers in these to compensate for the loading issue of both motors spinning the same way. that being said im wondering if whoever was in the pumps before me could have swapped them on accident or if they replaced one they bought the wrong one....?
 
I've been boating on the coast of NC/SC for about the past two weeks (heading home on Saturday) and have really been paying attention to this. My thoughts:

1) at no wake speeds, steering is dead on accurate.
2) at cruising speed, steering adjustment becomes wind dependent, but in a neutral wind condition, I have to hold the wheel at about 2:00. 3) In a strong cross-wind (10-15mph), steering can range from neutral to 3:00 based on wind direction.
4) In playing with my drone while boating here, I notice that the water spray from the hull is a larger on the starboard side than the port side. (video sample here):
[video=youtube_share;C-j8jXhR0Eo]https://youtu.be/C-j8jXhR0Eo[/video]
This is probably due to two people on the starboard side of the boat. I just made a note of it to test in a future recording.
5) I replaced both impellers on mine last year, and purchased the two correct part numbers. There is no identification on the actual impellers that I could fin, but I marked them to keep track.
 
see with mine even keeping it straight at idle is difficult. just gets worse the higher speed you go then when at wot im holding the wheel at like 3 or 4 and fighting to hold it there lol
 
With the help of a friend last night (well he did it, I helped) how owns a Yamaha dealership but not the boat side but he runs a river jet boat, checked the alignment of the nozzles. Upon initial check and measurements, the Starboard side nozzle was way out of alignment, that would push the boat to Port. Some adjustments ad now everything is square.

Hopefully the plan is to get to the lake this Saturday with my family and see the difference. I will report back.

I do have quick question though. Are the reverse gates suppose to be down when in the neutral position? When I got back home and I looked back at the boat after unloading, they were up? For some reason before I thought they were down all the time from what I recall....sorry for the NEWBIE Seadoo boat owner silly question.
 
Hopefully I answered my own question...went on YOUTUBE and watched a Seadoo TV video....it showed the stern end of the boat and the nozzles while on the trailer...gates were up. I thought we missed a step last night.

Good thing only had 2 beers doing the work...lol...Mind you what work for me?? I sat in the boat and turned the steering wheel back and forth, with a beer in my hand while my friend had wrenches in his...lol.
 
The reverse gates are supposed to be a little more than half-way down in "neutral" sending some water forward and backward to keep the boat relatively still. The impellers are always turning. Here is what mine look like in "neutral":
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you can see just about the bottom 1/3 of the nozzles.

Looking forward to the results of your testing.
 
Thanks for the pic-that helps. I parked my boat back out at the farm last night after working on it so I couldn't look this morning. Will confirm Friday night when I go get the boat again. For some reason I have a thought in my mind the gates are higher up.
 
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