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2001 challenger with 210 hp 2 stroke cold start issues

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mplekker

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Hello,

I just bought a 2001 Challenger with a 210 hp 2 stroke carbed engine. It had been sitting for 7 or so years. I tried firing it up (single beep after key turned to ON) and it did run after several tries on the old gas, the old spark plugs and the old fuel filter. The engine would start, but only after quite a bit of messing around. Then when the engine warms up (of course I had water running thru it with the garden hose) it would start beeping over by the dash board. Shut the engine off, and then when I tried restarting it fires right up. It seems way easier to start when the engine is warm. I burned off most of the old gas, then I replaced the spark plugs, fuel filter and filled the tank with new premium gas. The new plugs would not fire at all. Took one out, and did not see a spark. The engine acted like there is no spark, too. I smell gas, the plugs when you take them out are wet and the engine does not even has a single hit. Seems to me that there is plenty of fuel, but no spark.

I put the old plugs back in, and after a lot of cranking, it did finally start (with the old plugs) and same scenario as before: engine starts immediately when it is warm. Starts beeping after a few minutes, also. Then when cooled back down: impossible to start and acts like there's no spark. Browsed the forums, and found a few causes that can inhibit a spark from the ECM: stator/trigger assembly (crank shaft position sensory), the temperature sensory on left and right side and the STOP switch on the dash. There does not seem to be a water pressure switch for when you loose the water pressure thru the garden hose. I have not yet replaced stator/trigger assembly, or the temperature sensors, but I can rule out the STOP switch since it runs fine when warm. Leaning towards the temperature sensors. Any other ideas?

thanks
 
There's probably nothing wrong with the temp senders. First.... very few garden hoses have enough pressure to properly cool the sport jet engines. The reason is... where the flush port is hooked to... the majority of the water will go out the pickup line. (The hose connection is really for back flushing) Second... the temp sender issue is mostly on the EFI engines.

To me, it sounds like you have a bad stator coil. On the 210... it's generally the issue when there is an ignition prob. BUT... pull the wires, and check it with a meter. All the values are in the manual.
 
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Ok, thanks for your reply. If the stator coils or trigger assembly was indeed bad, then I don't understand why it runs so nice once the engine DOES catch and once it is warmed up. It uses those crank position coils for a cold start as well as a warm start. I will ohm them out and see what the values are. Let you know....again thanks for the reply.
 
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