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1996 Challanger or 1997 Sportster...need input as to which one to buy.

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Captains Walk

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Both are in great condition, used only in fresh water. However, I will be using it in saltwater. I'm asking for input as to which one would be the most reliable for me. I don't care much about the speed factor, it's mainly about the upkeep. I would be using it to mainly cruise around the bay, maybe just occ. using it to tube. I'm going into partnership on this and they only have a 2001 Subaru Sport AWD to haul it. So, I'm limited to weight. All opinions would be appreciated.
 
Which one?

Simple. The Challenger. Their both almost the same with the exception that the sportster has the 717 rotax and the challenger has the 787. The seating arrangements are about the same. I think the rear looking seat is not in the sportster though. Both engines preform well, same design, just the 787 will be a little faster.
 
1996 Challanger or 1997 Sportster

Thanks for the info. I'm sort of confused about the engine in the Challanger. From what I read, if the pump is behind the motor, that's not good. Is this the case with the 787? I can't seem to find that info. Also, is this engine called the RAVE?
 
I hope that you don't think I'm putting down the Challanger. I'm certainly not and I'm not questioning your knowledge. I know you can't believe all you read on the internet I appreciate all that you're willing to share what you know with me. You're the experts, I'm just trying to under as much as I can before I buy one. Owning a pontoon is a far different animal than a jet boat So, I'm a little bit wary of what I might be getting myself into with it. I know so little about engines, but I'm willing to learn:)
 
Rave!

The rave is specific to the Rotax engines. The 717 engine isn't equipped with the RAVE, which stands for rotax adjustable variable exhaust. Imagine building a racing engine in your car. When you put all the good stuff on top, like a high rise intake manifold, a huge Holley carb, you'd think your built to out run everyone. Well guess what, if you didn't change your exhaust ports, your not going any faster than you would as if you were stock. What ever the engine breaths in, it has to be able to breath out. When I built my first hotrod, I got rid of the 196 heads and went with the old double hump 202's. The exhaust ports were bigger!
Well that's exactly what the RAVE does, except it's automatic. As you build compression in your cylinders, the internal porting of the bellows expands, opening up the slide valve on the exhaust. Essentially enlarging the exhaust so you get greater performance!.......
My experience? I own the 1997 Challenger!.....and love it. No, I've never rode in a sportster, but I can tell you, the 787 engine is the perfect match for this 14 foot sport boat. It's fast enough to pull a tube, a kneeboard and a slalom. I used to barefoot and with one person in the boat, I bet it would pull me on foot. But like I said, I used to. At 48, I tend to feel the pain from a fall a little bit more than I used to, so I gave it up.
 
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Hey C W you might want to join as a premium member so you can look at all the manuals and check out what the difference are between the different models.You could also read about the operations of the jet boats in question. Click on the manual section and look at the selection. Lots to read and learn about the seadoo water craft lines and learn from the differences for your purposes. Preminum member fees are cheap enough for the knowledge you gain and have access to.
Karl
 
Thanks to the both of you! I feel a lot better now about the 787. Great explanation:) I will be buying one (hopefully soon) and will become a premier member at that time. Having access to the "how to" will be quite helpful. I just read over your taking an inside look at the 787....WOW...what a feeling that must be to get it up and running again. I find that a truly amazing accomplishment:hurray:
 
Thanks!

Thank you for the comments. I love working on mechanical things. There hasn't been much that I tore apart that I didn't get back together again. There was one engine I remember that didn't fair to well. I was a kid and it was a Sears Allstate 100cc motorcycle. They didn't make them anymore and I couldn't get parts for it. I remember I improvised by putting a coat hangar rod in the carb just so I could ride it.
I wish I still had that old thing. I bet it would be worth some money right now!.....
 
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