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XP Carbs Cleaning cost?

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Johnson8537

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Hey guys i think the pilot jet on my 01 XP might be dirty.

Anyone know about what it should cost to have the carbs cleaned?

Can they be cleaned or do they need to be rebuilt?

The Ski only has about 20 hours on it but sat for a while before i Got it...

Runs great but a little hesitant from the hole and then goes like a bat out of hell.
 
So to explain in more detail what is happening Here is what is happening.
Just to make sure you have all the info to make sure you can make a more informed diagnosis.

So From stop to WOT hesitates a bit then goes like CRAZY!

When stopped and I had my wife on it for the fist time i went very slow on the accerator. so i would not dump her in the COLD water!

when I do this with a little throttle as possible to get it accelerating it slowly moves and then almost hits a powerband with the same amount of throttle. NOT A SMOOTH ACCELERATION at all

anyway I hope that makes sense to what is happening?

I have never worked in a Ski before other than Rave valves and changing out gauges.

I think I am going to have either my local Seadoo place check them out?
They think about 2 hour job? Or a guy who i know who is a few hour drive away who said he would clean the carbs and make sure it is running right for 120.

I wish someone on here was local that would be willing to lend a hand as I am sure i could do it but just want the support incase i get lost.
 
If they are saying about a two hour job, they will usually charge about 90/hour. To get to the carbs you have to remove the tuned pipe to get to them, which is a huge pain if you don't have the seadoo exhaust wrench. You can make one if you want or you can get one for about $15-20.

You get that pipe off, and it's easy as pie to get to the carbs. Once you get to them, cleaning them out and cleaning the internal filters out is easy as well if your patient.

Give me a shout if you decide to do it and I'll help you out.
Ryan
 
If they are saying about a two hour job, they will usually charge about 90/hour. To get to the carbs you have to remove the tuned pipe to get to them, which is a huge pain if you don't have the seadoo exhaust wrench. You can make one if you want or you can get one for about $15-20.

You get that pipe off, and it's easy as pie to get to the carbs. Once you get to them, cleaning them out and cleaning the internal filters out is easy as well if your patient.

Give me a shout if you decide to do it and I'll help you out.
Ryan

I would love to do them on my own but like i said i don't have (the seadoo tools) and have never done it... would rather someone who has done it...
That way it is DONE RIGHT!

yeah they are saying a 2 hour job.... 70 and hour is the shop rate.

I am just afraid of them saying well it took longer than expected and get a 300 bill when i could have had them done for 120 but its about a 2 hour drive away.
 
Easy way!....

Your info pretty much hits the nail on the head...........accelerator pump. Wait a minute, I'll be right back.........

Look at this drawing....... http://partsfinder.onlinemicrofiche.com/seadooforums/Seadoo_oem/Seadoo_PWC.asp?Type=13&A=81&B=17 The accelerator pump is #63. Now, look at line #79. This is the small rubber hose that delivers the fuel from the pump, which is only on your PTO (rear) carb. If you look at the drawing closely, you might be able to make out those brass, 90* elbows.

You can do this yourself and maybe without taking off the exhaust. I dont think your carbs need to be cleaned because you only need to feather past the position of the pump. Once it gives you that burst of fuel, vacuum in the manifold pulls the gas from your main jet and takes over. So........

So, what you can try and do is identify that hose coming from the pump to your carbs. Use a mirror (I steal my wife's make-up compact) and flashlight so that you can get an angle view up into the carb area. The line will run up under the bottom. You will have to take off the air box (allen head bolts) and flame arrestor to see anything. Once you do this, you'll see this is really simple.

You need to check to make sure the clamps didn't rust away on you. If so, you may be sucking air. Use small electrical tie wraps to secure them. You don't need to take off the carb, just try to get the lines off and try to spray some carb cleaner through them. This is only the line coming from the pump to the carbs. Don't try to take the fuel line to the pump off. Just the line to the carb. If you can do this and you spray a lot of this carb cleaner through the lines, take out your spark plugs and roll the engine over a bit to blow it out. It doesn't have any oiling capabilities and has a low flash point, so it will act like starter fluid and ignite hard in the combustion chamber.

This job is really easy. The hardest part is getting to it. With our economy being what it is, I wouldn't doubt the stealershop gettin you in, then charging you like you said. If you read my threads on this subject, you'll see I am very pessimistic. I don't trust these guys. Though, I have had a few members find a good shop, good rates and do it in a timely fashion. So it's not to say they are all bad. For me, they are all guilty until proven innocent!.......:rofl::cheers:
 
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Snipe... wow thanks for the info..

I might try this then...

So If i have to take off the Exhaust do i need to buy a special tool?
Would it be easier and worth it to just buy the tool and take the exhaust off first rather than try to work around it?

Next when I get to the hose and remove if from the BACK CARB.. I just spray the cleaner through the hose and into to CARB?

Do i then connect everything back up before ROLLING the engine (WITH THE PLUGS OUT)?

You think this will solve the issue huh?
without acutually removing and manually cleaning anything?

If so is there No Way to get to the Main Fuel Line disconnect it so I could Spray Carb Cleaner via it and it would apss through the accelerator pump and all? I would think that would be easier to get at and cap off than playing Gumby and trying to get under teh exhaust?

Sorry for the Newbie Questions? Just never worked on a Ski before just Motorcycles/cars and trucks.
 
Seaddo Snipe is right on with your problem. The challenging part is getting to it.

I'm just saying from experience with the xp and the 951. If your gonna do anything with the carbs besides just adjusting them, the tuned pipe has to come off.

You can take off the air box w/o taking the exhaust off, but once you do there is still zero room to see anything on the carbs and get to the screws to take off the plate that joins the two carbs. The main fuel line is hidden way back there into the crank case to the carbs.

You have to take this pipe off in order to get the carbs.The special exhaust wrench is made for the bottom nut where the tuned pipe meets up with the manifold.

I made my own wrench by grinding the box end down and heating it up and bending it to the angle I needed. It is a huge pain in the butt because of the angle has to be perfect. I bent it and straightened it about 5 times before getting it right.

I would just order one from SBT, there only about $15. Much easier. Also the one that they make has a place on the other end where you can put a torque wrench in and torque it to spec.

Probably wouldn't hurt to get a manual from here either and you'll get step by step instructions on this project, and you'll have all the torque specs as well.

Here is the link for the wrench.
http://www.sbtontheweb.com/Merchant...0-109&Category_Code=2001sdxp&Product_Count=33

Ryan
 
PWC skis?....

Like nswillin is saying, is most likely totally correct. Why? I don't own a Seadoo jet ski and really have never worked on one. So I don't know the configuration.

I have and work on several Polaris and Yamaha skis as they seem to be the most popular skis on our river. The two I own are Yamaha's. They were given to me as non running skis for work I did on their newer ski. The two Yamahammers I own are easy to get the carbs off and work on them without removing anything. They really don't have an air box like the Seadoo's. The exhaust is on the opposite side of the engine.

So, when it comes to motors, I can help. But when it comes to the location of things inside the hull of a Seadoo Jet ski, I leave that up to our other moderators who have experience inside these things.

Please, now that you know I own Yamaha's, do not ask for advice on them. I own a Seadoo Jet boat and that's all I want to advise in a forum. They are my watercraft of choice and if I ever buy a ski, it wil be a Seadoo!....:cheers:
 
thanks guys....

hmmm
i may just pay someone to clean this out....

do you know if this ski has the gray or black fuel lines?
 
They were all made with the gray fuel lines, unless the previous owner changed them out.

Some people have no problem with them at first but eventually they will start clogging up filters and fittings.

Ryan
 
Removing pipe??

I bye no means am any sort of mechanic but i removed my carbs on my 99xpl without removing the pipe. I took a large allen wrench but thats it. Now that i think about it my ski has aftermarket flame arrestors so that probably made it easier. But if you pull of your flame arrestor i think you can remove the carbs without removing the pipe.
 
The manual actually says you can do it this way. Which I've done before. Kinda easy to get off but pretty hard to put back on. If you have never taken the carbs off of this model before I highly suggest you take the pipe off so you can see what your doing, instead off getting frustrated and end up not hooking something up because you can see it.
 
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