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Toolanddiemaker

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Ok so I need to winterize my 95 speedster but I'm in the process of rebuilding the pump,impeller wearing so my question is how important is it to be able to spray seadoo lube into the carbs and cylinders and to get stabilizer into the system because I can't run the engine without the pump installed because of the driveshaft spinning freely? I have to rebuild bolth pumps but the starboard side is in running condition the port side is trashed and off the boat. I guess I'm worried because it might take a few months to get the pumps put back on and winter storage is just around the corner! This is my first winter with a boat so I'm new to this whole process. The boat will be stored in my attached heated garage so at least it won't be sitting outside. Thanks
 
I think if you want, you can remove the driveshaft and run the engine, except the danger I see with this is if your PTO isn't torqued on well, it could come flying off spinning 4000RPM and ruin your day. So if the engine was recently replaced, I wouldn't try this but it might be okay if the engine has been at WOT in the water, as long as the PTO doesn't come unscrewed from the crankshaft there should be no problem.

If you would prefer not to start the engine for fogging, then I think the next best approach would be to remove the spark plugs and pour 1/2oz of fogging oil into each cylinder, then rotate the engine by hand a few revolutions to distribute the oil.

Then next spring when you take the boat out of mothballs, remove the plugs and spin it over with the starter to make sure it's not hydrolocked with oil and put the plugs back in.

Unfortunately, you won't be able to distribute fuel stabil into the carbs, I would either empty the tank of fuel or put stabil in then wash it down into the tank by filling the tank with fuel.

I prefer to remove the fuel from my fuel tank during storage, others feel it's acceptable to stabilize ethanol fuel.
 
I think if you want, you can remove the driveshaft and run the engine, except the danger I see with this is if your PTO isn't torqued on well, it could come flying off spinning 4000RPM and ruin your day. So if the engine was recently replaced, I wouldn't try this but it might be okay if the engine has been at WOT in the water, as long as the PTO doesn't come unscrewed from the crankshaft there should be no problem.

If you would prefer not to start the engine for fogging, then I think the next best approach would be to remove the spark plugs and pour 1/2oz of fogging oil into each cylinder, then rotate the engine by hand a few revolutions to distribute the oil.

Then next spring when you take the boat out of mothballs, remove the plugs and spin it over with the starter to make sure it's not hydrolocked with oil and put the plugs back in.

Unfortunately, you won't be able to distribute fuel stabil into the carbs, I would either empty the tank of fuel or put stabil in then wash it down into the tank by filling the tank with fuel.

I prefer to remove the fuel from my fuel tank during storage, others feel it's acceptable to stabilize ethanol fuel.
ok thanks will do. don't know what i would do without this site!!! this is a stupid question but how do I crank the engine by hand. This is my first 2 stroke.
 
Remove the spark plugs and use the drive shaft. Most can turn using no tools one the plugs are out. And since it is a 2-stroke you can turn it in either direction with no harm.

This is useful to know for the times you suck a rope into the impeller.. Turn it over by hand and unwrap the line..
 
Remove the spark plugs and use the drive shaft. Most can turn using no tools one the plugs are out. And since it is a 2-stroke you can turn it in either direction with no harm.

This is useful to know for the times you suck a rope into the impeller.. Turn it over by hand and unwrap the line..

Cool thanks!!!
 
ok thanks will do. don't know what i would do without this site!!! this is a stupid question but how do I crank the engine by hand. This is my first 2 stroke.

The reason I suggested cranking it over by hand was so most of the oil would remain in the engine and not get pushed out the plug holes in the heads. You can only turn the motor by hand if the plugs are out of it, otherwise the compression is too great unless you use a lever bar.

To turn engine by hand, remove the spark plugs and the rear(plastic) cover over the engine PTO flywheel and turn the PTO flywheel by hand. Put about 1/2 oz of preservative oil of your choice in each cylinder, I prefer an engine fogging mineral oil as opposed to an ester synthetic oil b/c most synthetic oils absorb water(hygroscopic) and run off cold surfaces, ie:ester oils absorb water from the air.

CRC engine stor is a good fogging oil that I like, or stabil fogging oil is good too, most autoparts stores like NAPA stock these. Even a bit of automotive engine oil should work just fine.

Spray the outside of the engine too, to keep corrosion down.
 
The reason I suggested cranking it over by hand was so most of the oil would remain in the engine and not get pushed out the plug holes in the heads. You can only turn the motor by hand if the plugs are out of it, otherwise the compression is too great unless you use a lever bar.

To turn engine by hand, remove the spark plugs and the rear(plastic) cover over the engine PTO flywheel and turn the PTO flywheel by hand. Put about 1/2 oz of preservative oil of your choice in each cylinder, I prefer an engine fogging mineral oil as opposed to an ester synthetic oil b/c most synthetic oils absorb water(hygroscopic) and run off cold surfaces, ie:ester oils absorb water from the air.

CRC engine stor is a good fogging oil that I like, or stabil fogging oil is good too, most autoparts stores like NAPA stock these. Even a bit of automotive engine oil should work just fine.

Spray the outside of the engine too, to keep corrosion down.
Funny you said that because I just tried cranking it by hand with the plugs in right before I read your post needless to say it didn't move! Just did it the right way plugs out good to go! I'm hitting atutozone tomorrow picking up the fogging oil you recommended any suggestions on what blend or brand of antifreeze to use oh and one more thing should I spray seadoo lube into the carbs even though I can't run it?
 
Yes, yes, and yes. Use non-toxic pink recreational vehicle antifreeze at full strength, you won't have any problems at all and it's cheaper. Spray some oil in the carb bores and it will help to keep corrosion down.
 
If you already have seadoo lube, it might also be the same lube as specified for fogging oil, I'm not sure b/c I've never bought this product.

I just ordered the seadoo lube or bombardier lube on eBay it's prob a little overpriced $19.00 but I wasn't sure what else to buy when I read the manual it shows a pic of it in the beginning and says to spay it in the carbs before storage.I just looked up seadoo fogging oil and they do make it but it's expensive I'll just get that oil you guys recommended
 
Sounds good. I've got a number of motors sitting around here, many are antique dating as far back as the 40's, and I use these fogging oils to keep them from corroding internally. I don't start them often, some not in 10 years or more, but I do turn them at least 1/4 revolution occasionally when I can, maybe once every couple months, to keep them from freezing up.

So if you leave your PTO shaft cover off during storage, you can occasionally turn your motor a small amount, by hand.
 
Sounds good. I've got a number of motors sitting around here, many are antique dating as far back as the 40's, and I use these fogging oils to keep them from corroding internally. I don't start them often, some not in 10 years or more, but I do turn them at least 1/4 revolution occasionally when I can, maybe once every couple months, to keep them from freezing up.

So if you leave your PTO shaft cover off during storage, you can occasionally turn your motor a small amount, by hand.

Interesting, thanks for they advice I work in a cnc shop and we coat everything besides aluiminum with wd-40 it's crazy how fast anything freshly machined will rust in the matter of a day if you don't protect it hence protecting our boats engines with procedures. This is the first water toy I've owned and I never realized how involved taking car of it was but in retotrspec I'm glad I bought it because it's fun learning about it even though I want to pull my hair out at times!!!
 
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