I figured it was time to call this clown show out for what it is. Previously we have had debates about this company and my opinion was not great but I had not had any personal experience so I could only go by what was posted by others.
Last summer my friend bought a 03 sportster le with a "fully rebuilt motor in the package" the price was right and my friend didn't bother to pull the engine out of the box. It's a fully rebuilt motor right?
So I pulled it out of the container and this is what we found.
The weld looked like a 3 year old did it. The crack on the bottom was painted over. So I called Tom and my first question was do you pressure test all your motors? The answer was "every motor" so then we yelled at each other for about 30 minutes. All I could do was laugh because he had no idea what I had, he had not seen it yet. He finally agreed to take the motor back and fix it. I sent out a mint set of cases bc there was no way I trusted his repair work.
So I sent it in and I get a call from tom about a week later. He says first that he had some problems with employees and that they werent doing their jobs right. Then he states that he looked up "his notes" on the motor and that he had called the customer to tell him the cases were unusable and the customer told him "I'm selling it anyways, just put it together"
Then... He asks me do I want this "race head" on my motor and proceeds to tell me the customer paid extra to have a hot rods crank put in. I told him I want stock compression. I asked why it had a "race head" and he proceeded to tell me that the customer paid extra for it. Wait....your telling me he paid extra for a "race motor" but didnt care that the cases were junk? OK Tom... Sure.
So at that point all I wanted was a good motor for my friend so he could use the boat. Tom was fairly quick, we got it 3 weeks later and paid all shipping. I'll give him that.
Full disclosure: after this first replacement, Tom started buying core parts from me and I felt like I was dealing with the devil... But engine parts were stacking up and he was offering good money for parts headed to the scrap pile.
Back to the story... We put it in and it lasted about 6 hours before the crank took a shit and blew out the cases. The pistons had not a scratch on them. So I had to send another set of cases in to get another motor. When he got it, he claimed that side was not getting oil. I asked him how the pistons had no scratches if that was true and he had no answer.
Again... Turnaround time was fast and he paid all the shipping.
My friend sold the boat and luckily we didn't hear back with any issues.
Then this spring this motor/machine got sold to me.
Nice weld job! Motor lasted a few hours, guy I bought it from stated to me ses wound not return his call.
Jason v told me story around the same time so I decided enough was enough and I called him, and called him out on these two issues. I don't know if he did anything for Jason, I know he called the other guy and told him he would send him a check. The other guy called and thanked me, I told him not to hold his breath and to call me if he actual gets a check... I never got that call.
I told Tom he's a ****ing hack and told him I'm done with him. He thought I was joking and egged me that included all the core parts he was buying.... Yup. I'd rather get $5 in scrap then to work with a guy with zero integrity.
What I can't understand is why any engine builder would send out a motor that is going to fail, esp if you aren't sbt and subsidizing your warranty with crazy shipping fees?? Tom told me he was forced to weld cases bc customers would demand engines at the eBay price even though his ad stated he needed good core parts to honor the price.
There aren't alot of options for motors... But if you are asking me who to use, it would never be Ses.
Last summer my friend bought a 03 sportster le with a "fully rebuilt motor in the package" the price was right and my friend didn't bother to pull the engine out of the box. It's a fully rebuilt motor right?
So I pulled it out of the container and this is what we found.
The weld looked like a 3 year old did it. The crack on the bottom was painted over. So I called Tom and my first question was do you pressure test all your motors? The answer was "every motor" so then we yelled at each other for about 30 minutes. All I could do was laugh because he had no idea what I had, he had not seen it yet. He finally agreed to take the motor back and fix it. I sent out a mint set of cases bc there was no way I trusted his repair work.
So I sent it in and I get a call from tom about a week later. He says first that he had some problems with employees and that they werent doing their jobs right. Then he states that he looked up "his notes" on the motor and that he had called the customer to tell him the cases were unusable and the customer told him "I'm selling it anyways, just put it together"
Then... He asks me do I want this "race head" on my motor and proceeds to tell me the customer paid extra to have a hot rods crank put in. I told him I want stock compression. I asked why it had a "race head" and he proceeded to tell me that the customer paid extra for it. Wait....your telling me he paid extra for a "race motor" but didnt care that the cases were junk? OK Tom... Sure.
So at that point all I wanted was a good motor for my friend so he could use the boat. Tom was fairly quick, we got it 3 weeks later and paid all shipping. I'll give him that.
Full disclosure: after this first replacement, Tom started buying core parts from me and I felt like I was dealing with the devil... But engine parts were stacking up and he was offering good money for parts headed to the scrap pile.
Back to the story... We put it in and it lasted about 6 hours before the crank took a shit and blew out the cases. The pistons had not a scratch on them. So I had to send another set of cases in to get another motor. When he got it, he claimed that side was not getting oil. I asked him how the pistons had no scratches if that was true and he had no answer.
Again... Turnaround time was fast and he paid all the shipping.
My friend sold the boat and luckily we didn't hear back with any issues.
Then this spring this motor/machine got sold to me.
Nice weld job! Motor lasted a few hours, guy I bought it from stated to me ses wound not return his call.
Jason v told me story around the same time so I decided enough was enough and I called him, and called him out on these two issues. I don't know if he did anything for Jason, I know he called the other guy and told him he would send him a check. The other guy called and thanked me, I told him not to hold his breath and to call me if he actual gets a check... I never got that call.
I told Tom he's a ****ing hack and told him I'm done with him. He thought I was joking and egged me that included all the core parts he was buying.... Yup. I'd rather get $5 in scrap then to work with a guy with zero integrity.
What I can't understand is why any engine builder would send out a motor that is going to fail, esp if you aren't sbt and subsidizing your warranty with crazy shipping fees?? Tom told me he was forced to weld cases bc customers would demand engines at the eBay price even though his ad stated he needed good core parts to honor the price.
There aren't alot of options for motors... But if you are asking me who to use, it would never be Ses.
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