My 2002 gtx di has been sitting for 5 yrs. It has under 30 hours on it and I was planning on selling it. It wont crank over, just clicks when start button is pushed. Some people say my engine is probably seized up and it would need a new engine. I really could use some suggestions as to what could be wrong and what the ski would be worth if it needed a new engine. Thanx in advance!
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Skie sat for 5 yrs..Is my engine seized up?? Help!
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timmyboy76
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Take plugs out, and squirt/spray wd-40/marvel mystery, let sit, then remove grey shield from back of motor, and with plugs out, turn that round thing(PTO), counterclockwise, see if its bound, still..then try with pipe wrench work'n back and forth, not to much force though..if still wont turn. Did it run B-4 you stopped running it?
timmyboy76
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Maybe then, rings just stuck on cylinder walls.
Well I was asking $3800 w trailer..seemed fair. But now two guys have said it will cost $2000 for an engine! Guess I should spend a few dollars to have a shop take a look at it? I just want it out of the driveway without giving it away..ya know? One guy offered me $750 for it...seriously?
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I vote "pull the plugs and shoot some WD-40 in both cylinders, let it sit a day" .. Remember the clearence in that cylinder is less then paper thin, it dont take much of a rust ring to cause what you describe. Give the WD-40 time to work. Once the rings clear the rust you should be in good shape. Just my oppinion.
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Lets say it is the motor, if you can remove/install new one, than it cost at around, $1000-1500 w/2yr warr, from SBT., w/ shipping..etc.??? If you cant, then dealers around hear want $3k, for same thing.
Otherhand, haven't heard/ nor read anything positive with this ski..but if not in hurry, throw marvel/wd-40 in cylinders and let sit...:cheers:
Otherhand, haven't heard/ nor read anything positive with this ski..but if not in hurry, throw marvel/wd-40 in cylinders and let sit...:cheers:
Mechanically inclined?
From the sounds of the posting, you don't seem to have a lot of mechanical skills. I don't mean this in a bad way, it's just the way you make it sound in your posts, "pto thingy"...
The ski is all but worthless with no engine. Depending on the skis condition and how the engine compartment looks, you might hold out for a bit more money. It does seem that you've had a couple people look at it and in it's present condition, think they are going to get a steal.
You want it out of the driveway. To the person your talking to, it probably shows that. Even more reason to take advantage of your dilemma.
If the ski is in good shape and you want to get what it's worth, you have to either get it running yourself and sell it with confidence or give it away.
A shop is going to see you coming and before it's all over, you'll be paying someone to haul it out for you.
These replies to your query seem very logical. I think I'd listen and see what you can do for yourself. Have some confidence. You might surprise yourself.
Oh, when you get it running, chances are, it's not going to run really good because it's a DI motor. Sitting for 5 years, I'm sure it's gonna have other issues beside the locked shaft.
What have you got to lose. I think I'd take the plugs out and spray it with PB Blaster.........I'm sold on that stuff now. KustomKarl introduced me to it a few months back and I'm amazed at the results. I had a friend bring me over an Artic Cat that sank last year. The engine was locked up. I sprayed that stuff in there and within 12 hours, the crank was working its way loose. Now, it starts and runs, but I'm rebuilding the carbs........dont' even want to tell you how much trash was in it. There was no strainer basket in it!....
From the sounds of the posting, you don't seem to have a lot of mechanical skills. I don't mean this in a bad way, it's just the way you make it sound in your posts, "pto thingy"...
The ski is all but worthless with no engine. Depending on the skis condition and how the engine compartment looks, you might hold out for a bit more money. It does seem that you've had a couple people look at it and in it's present condition, think they are going to get a steal.
You want it out of the driveway. To the person your talking to, it probably shows that. Even more reason to take advantage of your dilemma.
If the ski is in good shape and you want to get what it's worth, you have to either get it running yourself and sell it with confidence or give it away.
A shop is going to see you coming and before it's all over, you'll be paying someone to haul it out for you.
These replies to your query seem very logical. I think I'd listen and see what you can do for yourself. Have some confidence. You might surprise yourself.
Oh, when you get it running, chances are, it's not going to run really good because it's a DI motor. Sitting for 5 years, I'm sure it's gonna have other issues beside the locked shaft.
What have you got to lose. I think I'd take the plugs out and spray it with PB Blaster.........I'm sold on that stuff now. KustomKarl introduced me to it a few months back and I'm amazed at the results. I had a friend bring me over an Artic Cat that sank last year. The engine was locked up. I sprayed that stuff in there and within 12 hours, the crank was working its way loose. Now, it starts and runs, but I'm rebuilding the carbs........dont' even want to tell you how much trash was in it. There was no strainer basket in it!....
the jet pump is more likely to have siezed from sitting. does the pto thingy move a tiny bit (eigth inch or less) and jump back? the pump comes off the ski pretty easy. 10 minutes or so. then see if the motor turns. if so, a used pump from ebay for 1 to 2 hundred and ski has some value again. oh; you're in delaware. in that case it is worthless. i will be down to get it tonight. no, seriously, the fuel injection and mpem are worth that offer of $750.
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Ok...Had an upgraded offer of $1700 for my gtx di! Seriously considering it. Can someone tell me what the pto things is? What does that stand for? Im clueless..lol. Any web sites for diagrams to help me decipher my engine compartment?....Thanx. P.S....Yeah, the ski is in great shape from the outside!
timmyboy76
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Clooney....HOLD OUT, man....he'll pay $2k for it....if you dig the "doo-in", sell it, get something little easier/understadable ski. All means, no offense, man...that ski is a B....:cheers:
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Just things I've read, and problems people had, especially if you wanted to find more power, best advise, was install impellor., the ski is tempermental...why...?
I agree give it a shot..........
Soak the bejeebies out of it and let it sit. do it repeatedly for 2 or 3 days. Keep trying to work the PTO with a channel lock or pipe wrench. Is you do free it up...run it a little and add some extra oil to the gas to suplement lubrication till the rust wears away (50 to 1 pint to 6 gallons).
zachattack2795@aol.com
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last year i went to my cottage to find my 1996 gsx half sunken. the rear end was on the bottom of the lake (2ft). we got it out and it cranked but wouldnt start. after letting it sit for the winter the engine is seized, the pto wont move and there is rust in the cylinder. would wd-40 be enough? i only have $500 to put into the ski.
take the cylinder head off. this new you shouldn't have salted up head bolts that break. now you can see what cylinders look like. if rusty, sand what is above the pistons with 220 sandpaper. now spray PB blaster on the tops of pistons. now, take a piece of wood that will fit down the cylinder and hit the tops of pistons with a hammer. go back and forth. you don't wanna go all the way to bottom until you have cleaned up the area where the rings were on both cylinders. once the bores are sanded fairly clean, the starter should spin it. unless of course it is the jet pump like i said last week.
I don't know much but,
you said it ran before and u just let it sit for a while, its obvious that there is a jam somewhere or its sealed up, things could be dirty. i dont think any mojor parts need to be replaced and there for you shouldn't have to buy parts for it other than gaskets and sealants just incase u take it apart to clean it and greas it up, u know I would wait on selling it just yet, get it starting then sell it for a good price since your not interested in it anymore anyways.
I have a 1996 xp and thanks to timmy i got it running, it was a stupid thing but what ever, a technician at the dealer offered my 3000 for it, but i still want it. u can defenitly get more for your 2002. and mine is only a 2 seater, 1seater really!!!
you said it ran before and u just let it sit for a while, its obvious that there is a jam somewhere or its sealed up, things could be dirty. i dont think any mojor parts need to be replaced and there for you shouldn't have to buy parts for it other than gaskets and sealants just incase u take it apart to clean it and greas it up, u know I would wait on selling it just yet, get it starting then sell it for a good price since your not interested in it anymore anyways.
I have a 1996 xp and thanks to timmy i got it running, it was a stupid thing but what ever, a technician at the dealer offered my 3000 for it, but i still want it. u can defenitly get more for your 2002. and mine is only a 2 seater, 1seater really!!!
zachattack2795@aol.com
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i got water in the engine of my ski, would the water have gone passed the piston rings? and this is gonna sound retarted, but how do you start a thread?
whatever is on one side of rings is or was at one time on the other. the crankcase is the intake manifold and sort of weak sister of a supercharger. that is why oil has to be mixed with gas. but, you need to get it out. soon. pull the plugs-ground them on the ground lugs and crank the motor. now-starting a thread. go into forum, click the category you are interested in. look at the top left. the block titled new thread. click it. it is best if the thread title says something about the subject. so many threads just say "dead seadoo!! HELP ME!!!"
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