captcharles
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I've had to come home on one engine in my twin outboard. Will a Utopia 205 w/twin 4tec's run one one engine? Where I am it can a long time to get a tow.
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JPass
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Absolutely it can run on 1 engine. Being that pump pressure is what feeds the cooling system, you'll need to keep speeds under 15 mph to avoid pushing water into the exhaust on the non-running engine and having water back fill into the exhaust, then eventually to the cylinders through any open exhaust valves due to the system being flooded. The end result being hydrolock and water in the motor. No good.
The manual states clamping the hose coming off the pump into the exhaust manifold if you are going to be going over 15 mph (either by being towed or running on a second motor).
What many have done, including myself, is to install a shut off valve on the line mentioned above on both motors to allow for the situation you mention. I installed my valves after the exhaust manifold, simply for ease of access and visibility. There are a couple of recent threads on this.
The manual states clamping the hose coming off the pump into the exhaust manifold if you are going to be going over 15 mph (either by being towed or running on a second motor).
What many have done, including myself, is to install a shut off valve on the line mentioned above on both motors to allow for the situation you mention. I installed my valves after the exhaust manifold, simply for ease of access and visibility. There are a couple of recent threads on this.
captcharles
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OK. Thanks. I'll look for those threads. It sounds like great idea to install those valves.
deadlokd
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First time taking out my utopia 205. I went from miami to Bimini. Arrived in 1.5 hours
In the way back one engine started smoking. So I shut it off and ran on single engine back in for about 3-4 miles. But went slow. Next day figured out some seaweed clogged the intake. Next day boat was great.
In the way back one engine started smoking. So I shut it off and ran on single engine back in for about 3-4 miles. But went slow. Next day figured out some seaweed clogged the intake. Next day boat was great.
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captcharles
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Do you have and did you try the ICS - intake clearing system?
Glad you made it back.
Glad you made it back.
deadlokd
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No. I didn't know anything about boats. It was my first time driving one. And I took it the distance. The only thing I thought of was reverse thrust. But it didn't help. But next day I guess it just removed itself. After the coast guard towed it cuz when I tied it down it came loose and THe coast guard found it floating in the water. Called me and charged me $8000 for towing it.
XP 787
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Dude tell me there's 1 too many zero's in that number!!! How far did your boat float away?!?!
$800 or $8000?
deadlokd
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If I find the ticket I'll show you. The strange part is , is that if you don't have insurance on your boat and it's found floating or abandoned someon can claim it and keep it. The coast guard said I was lucky that somehow my phone number was listed as the owner of the boat and that's how they called me.
deadlokd
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I got the ticket 1 yr ago. And still no insurance. Which now that I'm telling you this story I may need to get. Summer time is just around the corner. [emoji41] and I intend on going airborne again in the boat. So far my boat has actually flied once in her life. That's a whole other story tho. Trust me. I got stories,LoL
I was in the CG for 23 years, never charged anyone we towed. And the "Salvage Rights" laws can be pretty screwed up for sure.
I'm shocked the CG towed the boat. They normally do a Notice To Mariners broadcast. And then a local salvage or tow company will try to snag it before a good samaritan.
I'm shocked you were charged. I've professionally towed probably $500 boats, never a charge.
I'm shocked the CG towed the boat. They normally do a Notice To Mariners broadcast. And then a local salvage or tow company will try to snag it before a good samaritan.
I'm shocked you were charged. I've professionally towed probably $500 boats, never a charge.
deadlokd
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Yeah it was ****ed up. But it was 1 year to long to care. The joy I have with that thing till now is "PRICELESS". I'm glad to still have her running strong. I need an honest mechanic. Know one in Miami?
Wanna know what I really tripped about? The price to fill her up when ur out on the water[emoji23][emoji23]
3x's the normal rate. Half a tank cost me $300 [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
Wanna know what I really tripped about? The price to fill her up when ur out on the water[emoji23][emoji23]
3x's the normal rate. Half a tank cost me $300 [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
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JPass
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I'm very baffled by half the things you are saying in this thread deadlokd.
First off, decent coverage on our 210 is only $435/year. That includes towing and road side assistance. Why would you ever take a bout out on the water without insurance? Especially when your going 50+ miles off shore? That's just poor judgement in my book. What if you hit someone else's boat or damage your own? Seems to be a lot cheaper to just insure. You basically pissed away 6 years of insurance with that 1 tow.
2: you enjoy jumping your boat? That's more of a jetski thing or the smaller Speedsters. Not so much the bigger boats. But being that you mention doing this more in the future, I seriously suggest you learn about your boat and what to look for because jumping is pretty hard on the boat and will lead to some issues over time. Keep an eye on those motor mounts for sure.
3: $300 to fill half the tank? That seems ridiculously high. We have a 44 gallon tank. At $4/gallon (more than the marina price for fuel up here), that's only $176. What were they charging down there $12+/gallon????
4: As for the smoke coming out of the engine compartment from the overheat. Smoke is bad. Make sure you check your hoses to ensure the excessive heat didn't do any damage to the insides of the hoses. Some hoses (our last boat) are designed to collapse on the inside during an overheat to choke off the motor and shut it down before any major damage can be done. Not sure if this applies to the hoses on our jetboats, but they should be inspected after an overheat like you experienced. Once the hose interior has been compromised, they must be replaced.
I highly recommend a boaters safety course for you and you seriously need to get some insurance.
First off, decent coverage on our 210 is only $435/year. That includes towing and road side assistance. Why would you ever take a bout out on the water without insurance? Especially when your going 50+ miles off shore? That's just poor judgement in my book. What if you hit someone else's boat or damage your own? Seems to be a lot cheaper to just insure. You basically pissed away 6 years of insurance with that 1 tow.
2: you enjoy jumping your boat? That's more of a jetski thing or the smaller Speedsters. Not so much the bigger boats. But being that you mention doing this more in the future, I seriously suggest you learn about your boat and what to look for because jumping is pretty hard on the boat and will lead to some issues over time. Keep an eye on those motor mounts for sure.
3: $300 to fill half the tank? That seems ridiculously high. We have a 44 gallon tank. At $4/gallon (more than the marina price for fuel up here), that's only $176. What were they charging down there $12+/gallon????
4: As for the smoke coming out of the engine compartment from the overheat. Smoke is bad. Make sure you check your hoses to ensure the excessive heat didn't do any damage to the insides of the hoses. Some hoses (our last boat) are designed to collapse on the inside during an overheat to choke off the motor and shut it down before any major damage can be done. Not sure if this applies to the hoses on our jetboats, but they should be inspected after an overheat like you experienced. Once the hose interior has been compromised, they must be replaced.
I highly recommend a boaters safety course for you and you seriously need to get some insurance.
deadlokd
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Since we are talking about the heat part. I have a question. Sometimes when I pull out the boat the water that comes out is hot. Why would that happen ?
The insurance thing I thought was monthly. But now I'm looking since it's really yearly
And yes I also tried to go to that event here in Miami where the teach you about the boats and all safety issues. , But a class shouldn't hurt. I'd actually like to go. This way I can better manage and maintain my boat. Trust me the best experiences I've had so far is with the boat and I do intend on taking care of her much better. I just need to learn more about them. Thanks for the insight. But I always use the maximum precautions.. if there's anyon in Florida Miami that would like to hang out and boat up teach me a few things feel free to let me know. Thanks guys.
The insurance thing I thought was monthly. But now I'm looking since it's really yearly
And yes I also tried to go to that event here in Miami where the teach you about the boats and all safety issues. , But a class shouldn't hurt. I'd actually like to go. This way I can better manage and maintain my boat. Trust me the best experiences I've had so far is with the boat and I do intend on taking care of her much better. I just need to learn more about them. Thanks for the insight. But I always use the maximum precautions.. if there's anyon in Florida Miami that would like to hang out and boat up teach me a few things feel free to let me know. Thanks guys.
JPass
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Hot water coming out of the drain plug could be from water that gets into the boat during use finding its way into the bilge where it sits close to the exhaust that warms it up.
The other place could be from an exhaust or other leak inside the engine bay.
Dry out the bilge before you take her out next. Before you leave the dock, check the bilge for water. If there's water, you have a leak and you'll need to fix it. If she's dry, then drive around and try to keep water from entering the boat. Stop periodically and check the bilge. If she's dry, then you more than likely are leak free, and you're probably getting water in the boat from normal use. If you do see water and you've ruled out splashes and such, then you'll need to track down the leak.
Places where you can have leaks:
hoses
through hull fittings
carbon seal
exhaust
Hope this helps
The other place could be from an exhaust or other leak inside the engine bay.
Dry out the bilge before you take her out next. Before you leave the dock, check the bilge for water. If there's water, you have a leak and you'll need to fix it. If she's dry, then drive around and try to keep water from entering the boat. Stop periodically and check the bilge. If she's dry, then you more than likely are leak free, and you're probably getting water in the boat from normal use. If you do see water and you've ruled out splashes and such, then you'll need to track down the leak.
Places where you can have leaks:
hoses
through hull fittings
carbon seal
exhaust
Hope this helps
deadlokd
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Yes that's one thing I keep my eye on. Every 15 min I check it. And it's pretty dry. I have ruled out leaks. As I have watched it for some time now. So I'm thinking it's when water comes into the boat. But I don't think it should be that hot when I drain her.
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