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JohnnyG22

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Hoping someone can help. I recently bought a 2005 Seadoo Islandiea and was told it has a newly installed rebuilt motor, about 100 hrs. was told its a 250 DI Optimax. exhausted all effort to try and locate S/N. I'm guessing it was removed during install. I'm attaching a few pictures to see if someone can tell if its a 250 optimax or a 240. found sticker that says 1999 240. but doesn't make sense. Have default time finding parts for repairing low RPM's. Boat idles great, runs great, Plane's find but just won't go past 4900 RPM's and only 32 MPH
 

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If possible, some pics w/o the large plastic engine cover would help. That cover is large enough to be hiding a bunch of things... and may not be correct for the engine underneath.

Cheers!
 
As you have probably found the serial # is very important when looking for parts.
Maybe a little help.
YM9XMO3.02C0 is the engine family.

Y is the engine year.
M9XM means mercury marine engine
03.0 means 3L
2 was not specified on my chart
C means 2 stroke
O is the drive type

I can't find the chart I had to decipher the family info but others may assist.

The engine serial number may be on a small white tag, 1 inch by 2 inch, on the housing at the very front of the power head.
It should have the engine s/n and the pump s/n.
The tag on my power head was sandwiched between the motor and rear seat fiberglass, about half way down.
I had to use my phone to snap a pik in order to read it.
Where your cover says V6.
Look down the front of the engine from there for a white label.
that's where mine was hiding.
You may have to take off the cover to see it.
Good hunting.
 
Thanks SnoopyDoo, but i looked with a fine tooth comb. just knowing if its a 240 EFI or 250 Di would be a big help. I took more Pictures. Hope this helps 20210715_203129.jpg20210715_203109.jpg20210715_203101.jpg
 
Thanks SnoopyDoo, but i looked with a fine tooth comb. just knowing if its a 240 EFI or 250 Di would be a big help. I took more Pictures. Hope this helps View attachment 55443View attachment 55444View attachment 55445

Merc used several different engines in these boats. As you have found out. The 4 pulleys on top are the clues. 3 of the pulleys are obvious. The 4th (with the large smooth top pulley) is the air compressor. I think there were 2 Optimax options. A 200hp (don't know the displacement) and a 3.0 liter 250 hp. By appearance, you have the smaller engine.

Start diagnostics with a compression test. All plugs out. WOT. NOT in the water.
Check fuel and air pressure. Check spark x6.
 
Merc used several different engines in these boats. As you have found out. The 4 pulleys on top are the clues. 3 of the pulleys are obvious. The 4th (with the large smooth top pulley) is the air compressor. I think there were 2 Optimax options. A 200hp (don't know the displacement) and a 3.0 liter 250 hp. By appearance, you have the smaller engine.

Start diagnostics with a compression test. All plugs out. WOT. NOT in the water.
Check fuel and air pressure. Check spark x6.
Like Tim said. Too many engine choices.
The emission sticker said 225hp and 2000 model year.
You may have to research the engine options for 99 through 2001 model years.
If you have a seadoo mercury authorized dealer nearby have a chat with a service tech. They should be able to give the choices for those years.
If the counter help is no help ask to speak to someone in the shop who actually works on motors.
Many (the good ones) can tell one engine from another by looking at it.
You may have to wander into the shop but asking first often helps.

The other option is find whoever dropped this thing in.
They may be able to identify it.
Take more pics to show different views. Both sides, front and back.
 
Merc used several different engines in these boats. As you have found out. The 4 pulleys on top are the clues. 3 of the pulleys are obvious. The 4th (with the large smooth top pulley) is the air compressor. I think there were 2 Optimax options. A 200hp (don't know the displacement) and a 3.0 liter 250 hp. By appearance, you have the smaller engine.

Start diagnostics with a compression test. All plugs out. WOT. NOT in the water.
Check fuel and air pressure. Check spark x6.
This is more fun than telling the difference between small block Chevy's.
The possibility of a cobbled together engine.
That's marvelous but not surprising.

Given your engine delima I'd do some diagnostics on the rpm problem and hope any parts that need replacing have part numbers on them. Or are reasonably generic that they fit many model powerheads.

Tim's suggestions are valid but you should perform a basic tune up and inspection along side it.
I hope you're handy with a wrench. Some engine knowledge and skills will help too.
Filters and plugs. You may have 3 fuel filters in line here.

Mercury marine has way too many diagrams on filter location. Will require some research but pik one that looks like yours and trace from there.
Other folk may help with filter locations in here.

Plugs should be tan color not oily black. Lotsa charts online for comparison.
See if they are the plugs recommended on the emmission tag.
This could be a clue to engine genre.
New plugs may be needed. Go with what's in there now.
Don't forget to gap them. My 2005 240 hp optimax calls for a .032 gap. Your tag says .043. Check the gap on your plugs currently in it and go with that unless it's well over .043 then I'd go with .043.
This would be time to do a compression test. Screw in testers are cheap and the info valuable to diagnostics. Follow the directions. All plugs should be out for this test.
If you have access to a scope have a look in the plug hole at the pistons heads and sleeve walls for scratches and unusual wear.
replace the Water separator. Thats the thing that looks like a oil filter on one side. It should have a part # on it. Check before taking it off in case it gets rubbed off.
general inspection of wires and wire connections. Look for crap and corrosion on wires and connections. Look for melted things maybe got too hot.
Section the engine and be precise and vigilant. You don't have to disconnect connections unless they look unusual and require a deeper look.

Check plug wires and boots for cracks and brittleness (not sure that's a dictionary word) boot should gently click onto the plug electrode and not be too easy to pull off or wiggle to much.
Check hoses for cracks and brittleness.
check the drive belt for cracks and wear.
Check belt tensioner. It needs to move but be tight enough to hold the belt firmly. Nothing more annoying than a slipping drive belt on these things.
Drain the gas tank if you can. Put new fuel in. Nothing screws up a good engine more then bad gas. If using pump gas (car gas) don't use low grade fuel with ethanol. It doesn't mix well with water if there's any in the fuel system. Marine gas from a marina usually has no ethanol in it. Many premium pump gas does not either. Check on the pump. It should say which grade has ethanol in it. E10 means 10% ethanol in the fuel product. Never use E85 or E15 fuel in a marine engine.

Other members will have suggestions for a good tune up. These are basics.

This will give you a good base line to work up from. It tends to be cheaper initially.

Then test after and move up from there.
 
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Thank you so much Snoopydoo, taking all that advise to heart. Yes I have more then enough knowledge working on auto's. all kind all make, rebuilt more then i can remember. But this Marine thing is like going back to the drawing board. Thanks everyone for all the help here. Ok, lets start with what I covered last week and today. Put brand new plugs last week, .043 Gap. Ran a little better but not much. Today pulled plugs to inspect and lower plug starboard side. Guessing that would be #6 was clean, like never fired. Checked spark when coil was still on engine none, so i thought great, it just a coil. pulled coil out and checked it ohm's and it was good, moved to cyc #2 and checked and it fired just fine. Put #2 in place of #6 and checked and now that is firing also. Hmmm, Got stumped. both fire now. checked ohm's on injectors and all good. so back to drawing board. Maybe moving stuff around got something working? will test in water in a few hours and see. Hoping all is good. Do you guys think it could be trigger? But I thought when Trigger go bad you loose 2 cyl. Other then RPM is only 4,900 everything runs amazing. Open for more Suggestions Thanks Guys a bunch. Still hoping to find S/N somewhere.
 
Update on water test. Took boat out yesterday after switching around coil pack. Put in water, 10 minutes at wake speed till got out on open channel. Slammed lever forward and the boat flat out took off and reached 5,500 RPM's what seemed like seconds. Planed out so quick, sounded amazing for 2 Minutes that is. Hit first 1 foot of wave and noticed sound of engine change quick and RPM's dropped down to 4,600 and went from 40 MPH to 27. Like coil stopped firing again and back to what it was doing before. My Question is do coil's do that? Test ok one minute and bad the next. What are your thoughts? Should i buy another coil and replace?
 
Update on water test. Took boat out yesterday after switching around coil pack. Put in water, 10 minutes at wake speed till got out on open channel. Slammed lever forward and the boat flat out took off and reached 5,500 RPM's what seemed like seconds. Planed out so quick, sounded amazing for 2 Minutes that is. Hit first 1 foot of wave and noticed sound of engine change quick and RPM's dropped down to 4,600 and went from 40 MPH to 27. Like coil stopped firing again and back to what it was doing before. My Question is do coil's do that? Test ok one minute and bad the next. What are your thoughts? Should i buy another coil and replace?

I would not think that a coilpack would be subject to vibration. They are molded and potted. However, the wiring TO the coilpack could be subject to vibration. Once upon a time my engine would die every time I hit a wave. Very disconcerting, coming in an inlet. The wires at the vst pump were failing. New connectors and no more of that.

Ground wires are suspect. All the wires near the coils are suspect. Visual every wire to each coil. Ground wires, too. Not just the connectors. But the wires going into the connectors. Check wires from ECU and ignition module.
 
I understand, but why just #6 Fails? Connector at #6 and wires looks good. Do you think i should trace wires all the way back and maybe check Continuity while wiggling wires around.
 
Okay, I'd like to thank Tim and all those that have helped, I have finally got it purring like a Kitten. It was # 6 Coil pack. It would act funny fire sometimes and sometimes not. Replaced with a new one took it out for a 15 Mile round trip, Many stops and push to full throttle and it runs and sounds amazing. 5,500 RPM about 45 Miles top end and planes in seconds. Also installed smart tabs and they really help to keep nose down. Also still don't know motor size, Tim i know you said its not a 225 optimax but so far all parts from 225 fit. Looked at 200 Optimax and Pully system and oil size and location way different.
 
What does this sticker on your engine say (circled on your pic below)? Looks similar to the sticker on my Optimax 200 and will give provide your model number and serial number (see my two pics). For reference, my model # is S200J20YS and my serial # is 0E396902. Pop the serial # into the Mercury Marine online parts catalog or use the model # to search on Crawley Marine.
 

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