Need Advice Removing 587 carb from 93 GTX

[SurfBeat]

I NEED HELP on how to disconnect the throttle linkage from the MAG carb, then the throttle linkage between the MAG and PTO carbs.

Upon being advised to clean the jets and fuel filter in the carbs, I began my project early this afternoon by almost easily removing the flame arrestor. (Only problem, off to Sears, Auto Zone, Kragens to find a hex driver that fits the screws securing the FA to the engine. Size 30 worked)

Next I received help on the Forum on how to disconnect the choke cable (Allen screws).

Reading my Clymer's Shop Manual, Clymer's suggests removing the intake manifold before removing the carbs and throttle linkages. That seems unnecessary, but, what the hell do I know as this is my first endeavor to remove a carb from a Doo.

Moreover, Clymer's SP does not have any photos reflecting this task. The manual sucks in this regard.

Looking at the carb, it seems that special tools are needed to remove the four screws that secures the carb to the manifold. Is that so? If not, any help will be appreciated. (I read a thread that the screw are 13mm)(I am reading, not simply looking for an easy answer)

I am taking photos and writing clear instructions of this project so I can post it for others to use.

Reading the threads I've found a lot of helpful info, however, I am meandering in the dark with respect to my next two or three steps as set forth above. After that, I "should" be home free. H E L P!!!!!

 

[timmyboy76]

hey joe...shot you email. It could be, that its easier to work on, with "manifold" removed with carbs attached, then undo the 4-nuts on tthe 2-carbs. Or hit, Harbor Freight (magnolia/Adams..:rofl, get the size wrench you need, and bend it...but need to remove the "cables" away from carbs, before remove'n the manifold..etc.

 

[SurfBeat]

Mornin' Tim:

I see we are on the same page; purchasing a wrench at Harbor Freight and bending it to make it fit the project at hand. I did that before when working on one of my first cars.

It appears that I may be making this project much more difficult that it really is, primarily because I am proceeding slow and very meticiously, which is contrary to my usual way of doing things. (The former is a good thing because in the long run, I accomplish the task at hand correctly without going back to fix unnecessay SU's)

Let me get to your Sunday morning e-mail and ask you a few questions that hopefully will solve the "hidden nuts" matter.

Before proceeding, however, I surmise that the "Airbox" you mentioned in this mornings e-mail, wherein you advised me to remove the "Airbox" that is secured on top of the carbs, is the Flame Arrestor?

If that is so, then that is the first thing that I accomplished when I began this project and after that is where my problem began;

1. disconnecting the choke cable - quickly accomplished that task with your advice;

2. I am now having a problem finding the 10mm nuts you mentioned that secures the throttle cables.

To find those "hidden" nuts:

a. I can clearly see the throttle wire proceeding through the base of the flame arrestor, to the throttle linkage in back of the carb that is facing the engine. (between engine and PTO carb)

b. The throttle wire goes through the throttle linkage and connects to a 8mm nut that is connected to a 1" long narrow 8mm connector that also has an 8mm nut at the other end and proceeds to the MAG carb throttle linkage.

Are those two 8mm nuts the ones that you mentioned are 10mm?

I am running out of nuts to find, so, I must be narrowing the evasive nuts question!

If I am on the same page as you, (drum roll n confirming I am one DS) then I may have that question answered and can move on to removing the carb from the manifold which appears to be a real PITA. (no room to get a wrench to the four 13 mm bolts.)(Freight Harbor, here I come again)

Now, to ensure I don't FU disconnecting the throttle links if we are both on the same page, when facing the connector mentioned above, do I disconnect the small 8mm nut from the PTO or MAG carb?

Or, must I remove both nuts?

If all goes well I can be done with the first Doo by 11 and move on to its twin and have that done quickly.

Then, I may be out of the dog house and back into the sackaroo.

Joe