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Life after 2012?

seadoosnipe

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I was watching yet another show on the Discovery channel and it was about the world coming to an end in 2012. Specifically, December 21st of 2012. There is a bunch of hoopla about the Mayans calendar ending and some think it will be the end of the world as we know it.

Though many scientists don't believe it's going to be the end, they do agree that we will see a greater amount of activity from the sun. Possibly creating massive power outages from solar flares. This is also a time that the sun will be passing between the galaxies equatoral plane.

What do ya'll think? Think it spells the end of time, as so many think it will.
 
I was watching yet another show on the Discovery channel and it was about the world coming to an end in 2012. Specifically, December 21st of 2012. There is a bunch of hoopla about the Mayans calendar ending and some think it will be the end of the world as we know it.

Though many scientists don't believe it's going to be the end, they do agree that we will see a greater amount of activity from the sun. Possibly creating massive power outages from solar flares. This is also a time that the sun will be passing between the galaxies equatoral plane.

What do ya'll think? Think it spells the end of time, as so many think it will.


I don't think solar activity is going to be an issue.. As far as solar flares we peaked on that about 4 years ago... In my line of work it caused a LOT of issues but I have noticed that the events dropped way off and most things are back to normal.

If I had to make a guess I think our issue will come from the alignment affect on our gravitational pull. If we see any activity at all, it will be due to that more then anything else. Gravity has a HUGE effect on our ocean so I think we may be in for a wild ride.. Some people don’t know this, but the Navy has recorded a long standing bulge of water in the Atlantic, miles of cubic volume of water. If the change in gravity caused that bulge to move it would cause a massive SLOSH effect. This is what a lot of people are keeping their eye on right now.
 
Some people don’t know this, but the Navy has recorded a long standing bulge of water in the Atlantic, miles of cubic volume of water. If the change in gravity caused that bulge to move it would cause a massive SLOSH effect. This is what a lot of people are keeping their eye on right now.

Hmmm... Better go get a surf board :)
 
I was watching yet another show on the Discovery channel and it was about the world coming to an end in 2012. Specifically, December 21st of 2012. There is a bunch of hoopla about the Mayans calendar ending and some think it will be the end of the world as we know it.

Though many scientists don't believe it's going to be the end, they do agree that we will see a greater amount of activity from the sun. Possibly creating massive power outages from solar flares. This is also a time that the sun will be passing between the galaxies equatoral plane.

What do ya'll think? Think it spells the end of time, as so many think it will.

I heard about that, the messed part about it was the ancient myans were painting hieroglyphics on those rocks of like space ships and other weird stuff there not supposed to know about. Bu I thought the planets were going to line up with the sun and the earths gravity is supposed to shift and end life as we know it. Maybe that is another end to the world....

Anyway I think were screwed one way or another
 
If I am not mistaken I have read at the nasa site that the polarity of the sun will change in 2012, and that is change you can believe in. I did not know it but it seems that the polarity of the sun changes every 7 years maybe it is 11 years. Please correct me if I am wrong as I do not like to spread false info. :cheers:
 
I don't think solar activity is going to be an issue.. As far as solar flares we peaked on that about 4 years ago... In my line of work it caused a LOT of issues but I have noticed that the events dropped way off and most things are back to normal.

If I had to make a guess I think our issue will come from the alignment affect on our gravitational pull. If we see any activity at all, it will be due to that more then anything else. Gravity has a HUGE effect on our ocean so I think we may be in for a wild ride.. Some people don’t know this, but the Navy has recorded a long standing bulge of water in the Atlantic, miles of cubic volume of water. If the change in gravity caused that bulge to move it would cause a massive SLOSH effect. This is what a lot of people are keeping their eye on right now.
I may be wrong but I can see the bulge that you speak of as being the part of the earth that is not perfectly symmetrical. I would think that any change in gravitation will be so slow in effect that you may be able to move out of harms way. :stupid: :agree:
 
Ya gotta ask yourself, Why did the Mayans write a calander that ended in 2012, and they ain't been around for a hundred years???
 
Could it be that the math formula that they hapen to use for their calendar ran out of numbers in 2012? I surely do not have much of a clue. :cheers:
Ya gotta ask yourself, Why did the Mayans write a calander that ended in 2012, and they ain't been around for a hundred years???
 
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Could it be that the math formula that they hapen to use for their calendar ran out of numbers in 2012? I surely do not have much of a clue. :cheers:

it was a cycle thing, at the end of 2012 it marked an end to a set of cycles and the start of the first cycle.. kinda like starting over..
 
:agree: I just don't see how the world and human kind can just come to an end. I do agree that we will start to see some noticeable changes like snipe mentioned at the start of this post but noting drastic. Until there is scientific evidence (not Mayan myths) that says that X will happen ON Y date I will continue to:redface:
 
Great comments...!

If I am not mistaken I have read at the nasa site that the polarity of the sun will change in 2012, and that is change you can believe in. I did not know it but it seems that the polarity of the sun changes every 7 years maybe it is 11 years. Please correct me if I am wrong as I do not like to spread false info. :cheers:

In a way, your right Robin. The suns activity in solar flares is in a cycle. The cycle is every 11.5 years. Scientists have said this is closing to 10 years as time goes by. Solar activity can also be determined by sun spots. In the past, scientists have pointed out that when the sun is in increased solar activity, with many sunspots, the earth receives less energy and is actually cooler than when the sun is active. The most powerful flares are called "coronal mass ejections". These ejections travel at the speed of light and are made up of electrons, protons and ions producing massive amounts of radiation and gamma rays. A direct hit on earth may be absorbed by our own magnetospere, which is natural protection from the suns radiation. But, if we take one hit after the other, the magnetosphere will be weakened to a point, radiation could make it through. If that happened, we'd surely perish within a short period of time.

As for the bulge in the ocean. This is really nothing new. It's always been there. The earth is not round. The earth is constantly stretching from the gravitational forces as the moon circles the earth. This is also where we get our tides. The gravity being excerted on the surface of the planet causes it.

The alignment of our sun to the Milky Way's equatorial plane and the peak of solar activity is suppose to take place on Dec. 21st of 2012. Which is also the date of the winter equinox. The show I watched about this on the History channel last week spoke about the shifting of Earths poles and the affect of the gravity at the equatorial plane. The scientist said that if the earth were to reverse it's north and south pole, it is not something that would happen over night. He said it would take thousands of years for this to occur. On the alignment of the sun with our equatorial plane of the black hole at the center of our Milky Way? This was also pretty interesting. He said that we are already in an area of the galaxy that is on the outer fringes of one of the spiral bands. He made the comment that many stars closer to the center of the galaxy have passed that plane and they weren't ripped to shreds. So, there is no real reason to think we, so far away, we see any real affect from this.

Screwball.... The Mayans aren't extinct. They are still a thriving culture today. They don't live in the ruins or temples anymore, but they are still with us on earth.

If you really look into the long count calendar, you'll see it wasn't the only calendar used by the ancient Mayans. There were 3. In the reading I have done, the Mayans themselves didn't see this as the end of the earth but rather the end of a complete solar cycle. The Mayans are not the only culture to have a long count calendar. I know the Chinese and Native Americans have one. If I remember the last show I watched on this subject, there were about 7 ancient cultures that used one. All in different locations on the globe but all with calendars that were so very close to each other.

Here's a really good read if anyone is interested. Its about the Mayan calander but more, it's about the inconsistancies of it. It's also about the way the Mayans actually saw it. Its where I like to get a lot of my questions answered. The site is called the straight dope.

What you have read is not something that I'm just fluent in. It's something that I find very intersting. The statments above were things I remembered hearing or seeing on one of the many shows or reads about the subject and I just happened to look them up and put together a summary of that info for your reading. Most of it is from the Wikipedia in my own words.:cheers:
 
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I agree with snipe about "the end of a complete solar cycle" , Also he brought up a great point with the magnetospere, I watch forum threads where people do nothing more but sit around and watch the magnetospere for changes.. As for pole shifting I don't completely agree, I think in most cases a pole shift would be slow.. However with that said, anyone who has played with magnents know that a pole shift can happen in a blink of an eye.. Its not likely to happen, but there are so many unknown variables its kinda hard to say.. In order for earths magma to change direction of flow over the earths iron core something huge would have to happen, huge would be an understatement..
 
Cecil at The Straight Dope is awesome.

Been reading his stuff since graduate school, and used to watch his TV show for a while. It didn't last long. Maybe one season. Probably because Cecil didn't do the show, but some other guy did all the narration and such.
 
Slow change...

I agree with snipe about "the end of a complete solar cycle" , Also he brought up a great point with the magnetospere, I watch forum threads where people do nothing more but sit around and watch the magnetospere for changes.. As for pole shifting I don't completely agree, I think in most cases a pole shift would be slow.. However with that said, anyone who has played with magnents know that a pole shift can happen in a blink of an eye.. Its not likely to happen, but there are so many unknown variables its kinda hard to say.. In order for earths magma to change direction of flow over the earths iron core something huge would have to happen, huge would be an understatement..

I think you might have mis-understood me. This summarize I did was from evidence brought together by the scientific community, which included some of NASA's most notable professors. They have come to the conclusion that if a magnetic role reversal takes place, it will most def be a slow change. It will not be something that happens over night. It's would take a few thousand years. The only real problem that can happen dramatically, fairly fast would be a loss of our magnestophere if the solar activity bomdarded our magnetic field with such power, it could eat away at the protective layer pretty fast. Accelerating the enevitable of lossing our magnetic protection, allowing solar readiation to penetrate the earths surface.
 
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Sure makes me feel vulnerable, knowing all that bad stuff is out there and we are only protected by a thin layer of "air"...:(

It is amazing that life exists on this rock, at all.
 
thin layer....

Sure makes me feel vulnerable, knowing all that bad stuff is out there and we are only protected by a thin layer of "air"...:(

It is amazing that life exists on this rock, at all.


Thats only if you look at the fact that we have some protection from the suns activity. That doesn't cover the fact that out of the thousands of near earth objects that George Bush mandated that NASA track to help us protect ourselves from an impact from outside the asteriod field, its' the stuff that comes from behind the sun that we won't see (because of the bright light of the suns surface) that we won't see if it's heading our way, till it's too late!...
 
I just have to laugh about all these theories as to why the calendar ends in 2012. Some of them are pretty good I might add!

Maybe they took a break since they worked the calendar all the way out until 2012 and then they were massacred by the Spanish and somehow concern about the 2013 calendar wasn't as high a priority.

Of course I am just being silly.... I am sure that there was some scientific explanation. :thumbsup:

WaterManiac
 
I have a explanation: The Mayans had some really good home grown in the bong and hit it often!!!! I suggest we do the same and not worry about. :rofl:
 
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