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Just bought 2006 Sportster 215 SCIC

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hi,noob here... a few questions.
1. can supercharger be eliminated? if so what kind of speed loss would i be looking at?
2. what is the best way to work in engine compartment? take the back cover off and lay down on the swim deck, or get inside and work on it?
3. what is best bang for lowest bucks performance mod?

thanks
 
hi,noob here... a few questions.
1. can supercharger be eliminated? if so what kind of speed loss would i be looking at?
2. what is the best way to work in engine compartment? take the back cover off and lay down on the swim deck, or get inside and work on it?
3. what is best bang for lowest bucks performance mod?

thanks

answer to 3 is keep the sc in place.
performance mods, if your worried about $$ then dont do any, keep it stock for awhile until you fully understand the boat and engine. otherwise its just a money hole waiting to be fill!!
hang upside down over the side.....seriously whatever is comfortable for you, if your small or thin enough you can squeeze in on the side, you cant do that on the twin engines!!

anchor size is usually recommend when you buy it, it says for what size etc...
 
Welcome, why would you want to get rid of the super charger i wish mine came with one?, also mods would be great with the super charger?
 
hi,noob here... a few questions.
1. can supercharger be eliminated? if so what kind of speed loss would i be looking at?
2. what is the best way to work in engine compartment? take the back cover off and lay down on the swim deck, or get inside and work on it?
3. what is best bang for lowest bucks performance mod?

thanks

Removing the SC will make the ski MUCH slower and have MUCH less performance. The SC ski's are a low compression ski and require the boost from the SC for performance.


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Hey buddy, welcome to this awesome forum.

The best bang for the buck, as stated before, is to keep it stock, and not worry about making any changes. These boats came with either a NA (naturally aspirated engine) producing 155 HP (which is what I have), and the monster SCIC motor, making a lot more ponies. These engines are the same size, but the internals are not the same. The NA motor has higher compression pistons, since it draws it's air through natural induction. So, as the pistons go down, they suck air. Because of that, the pistons are flat, and produce their own compression. The Supercharged motor shoves air into the intake, so as the piston moves down and sucks air with it, the super charger forces even more air into the cylinder, and gives you more air (Oxygen, really) in that same amount of space vs. a regular NA motor. Because you have more air coming in, the pistons are caved in a little, or else the compression ratio would be like 20:1 (maybe I'm exaggerating a bit). So, the more air you need to force into a cylinder, the less compression pistons you need, since you're forcing air.

So, with all that said, if you take the supercharger off, you'll run like poop.

You have a great boat. 15 feet, with 210 HP. That's incredible as it is. Just to let you know, most bow-rider boats have a 135 HP engine in a boat that's 17 feet long, and weighs about 200 Lbs. Your boat weighs probably 1400 lbs, and has a LOT more power, so be happy with it.

My advice, is if you have no problems with the boat, no issues, then DO NOT TOUCH IT. the boat is tuned pretty well out of the box, and it usually doesn't need any fiddling with. Just take it out, and enjoy the incredible engine, and ridiculous maneuverability this boat gives you. You really don't need that much power, but if you're towing a skier, having the extra power helps him/her get up quicker, and it helps the boat plane better, too (get it's nose down while running).

Enjoy the boat, brother. It's a blast!!!
 
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Hey buddy, welcome to this awesome forum.

The best bang for the buck, as stated before, is to keep it stock, and not worry about making any changes. These boats came with either a NA (naturally aspirated engine) producing 155 HP (which is what I have), and the monster SCIC motor, making a lot more ponies. These engines are the same size, but the internals are not the same. The NA motor has higher compression pistons, since it draws it's air through natural induction. So, as the pistons go down, they suck air. Because of that, the pistons are flat, and produce their own compression. The Supercharged motor shoves air into the intake, so as the piston moves down and sucks air with it, the super charger forces even more air into the cylinder, and gives you more air (Oxygen, really) in that same amount of space vs. a regular NA motor. Because you have more air coming in, the pistons are caved in a little, or else the compression ratio would be like 20:1 (maybe I'm exaggerating a bit). So, the more air you need to force into a cylinder, the less compression pistons you need, since you're forcing air.

So, with all that said, if you take the supercharger off, you'll run like poop.

You have a great boat. 15 feet, with 210 HP. That's incredible as it is. Just to let you know, most bow-rider boats have a 135 HP engine in a boat that's 17 feet long, and weighs about 200 Lbs. Your boat weighs probably 1400 lbs, and has a LOT more power, so be happy with it.

My advice, is if you have no problems with the boat, no issues, then DO NOT TOUCH IT. the boat is tuned pretty well out of the box, and it usually doesn't need any fiddling with. Just take it out, and enjoy the incredible engine, and ridiculous maneuverability this boat gives you. You really don't need that much power, but if you're towing a skier, having the extra power helps him/her get up quicker, and it helps the boat plane better, too (get it's nose down while running).

Enjoy the boat, brother. It's a blast!!!

wow! that is some great info donphantasmo. i had no idea that the engines were different between the NA and SC. i thought it was the same engine just with the SC slapped on it. i do not plan on racing it or anything so i really don't need to do any mods anyway. they sure do sell a lot of aftermarket performance parts though (impellers, exhaust mods, etc.). i guess there are those people that just have to go 2 MPH faster for thousands of dollars.

as far as the SC on my boat. i'm pretty sure it still has the ceramic washers since i can look in the engine compartment and see the factory style hose clamps on all the hoses. what is a fair price to pay to get the SC rebuilt including R&R. i would take it off my self and have this place in Tampa rebuild it for me but i don't see how to get in there and start wrenching.
 
That's what comes with boat ownership. You need to perform the preventative maintenance, or you can pay for the wear and tear. Believe me, I know. I'm a Jet Engine Mechanic. Where I work, we spend MILLIONS per year maintaining our old crusty aircrafts, so we don't have to pay hundreds of millions to pay to overhaul engines and props.

As for the mods, they do work. They're different pitches of impellers (internal propellers) so you can pull harder, or higher top speed. Like I said before, don't worry about that stuff. Make sure your boat is running great, keep it running great. Unless you get into professional wake boarding, you'll never go wrong with what you got. Just enjoy it!!!
 
This site does the rebuilds and uses OEM parts to do so. I need to find the link for you but I believe it is $495. Which is a great price. Also have a link for removal. When I get a moment I'll find the links.


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so i pulled the hose off of my sc and i cannot spin the sc shaft by hand. from what i read this means the sc washers are not broken. am i correct in assuming they are ok? i am going to get it rebuilt anyway. just tryin to do some of my own inspections while i learn.
 
I just had my s/c rebuilt by PWC Muscle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vu_hMCf-iM I followed their video on how to remove /reinstall, it was apiece of cake. It ran me $415.00 which included return 3 day priority shipping, and was about half of what dealers want. Those PWC Muscle guys rebuilt and reshipped it the same day they got it, I highly recommend using them. Happy boating!
BTW, I like a Danforth anchor, and make sure you have a chain leader so the anchor teeth will set. but before buying anything, I'd check with people in your area, Florida bottom conditions might dictate another style.
 
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so i pulled the hose off of my sc and i cannot spin the sc shaft by hand. from what i read this means the sc washers are not broken. am i correct in assuming they are ok? i am going to get it rebuilt anyway. just tryin to do some of my own inspections while i learn.

Generally speaking, it means the washers are not worn out or missing. They could be cracked, but not likely.


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Generally speaking, it means the washers are not worn out or missing. They could be cracked, but not likely.


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thanks again for the info coastiejoe. i have read lots of threads and can tell you really know your stuff.

a couple more questions.. do i need to change the pump oil/grease? i have seen it mentioned in a few threads but i dont know the details, such as when, where is the drain/fill location, and how to do it. also, without driving the boat and without removing the jet pump is there anyway to know if there is anything wrong with the wear ring or impeller? if not. what kind of symptoms would a bad wear ring present while driving.
 
do i need to change the pump oil/grease? what kind of symptoms would a bad wear ring present while driving.

Yes, the pump oil/grease needs changed. I have not reached the hours yet on my ski to have the need to do so. But,, I have had them for 4 yrs so I am due myself. It is not a hard job but it does need to be done correctly as it can cause issues if not. I would consult the manual myself as I have yet to do this specific job.

Wear ring, if there is a gap of 10 thousands of an inch or more, (width of a dime) between the impeller and the wear ring it needs replaced. If you operate it and the engine revs go up quickly but the ski does not really take of like it should, then the wear ring OR, the carbon seal is bad. Basically, it acts like a car that you floored, the tires spins (engine revs going up) but you don't really go anywhere.
 
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