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I have done a little recon and have discovered that the Bombardier Sea Doo is the most bestest there is :) For starters, coming from the quad world, BRP makes one of the fastest production quads, and its a UTILITY model(just in case you didnt know, not assuming you dont) and then I go to the web site and find SUSPENSION, CLOSED LOOP COOLING, and BRAKES!!! It seems like the most sensible option(even if Kawi is 3k cheaper, :P )
One question, are these things a hassle? My father appealed to me for like a milisecond when he said "its not like the fourwheeler, when you can just jump on it and go ride for while, it takes planning, its an event.." ( < he had a boat when I was younger 21' WelCraft ) and then I got my baby sister and brother-in-law, who just had a terrible experience in Key West getting pummeled by "5 foot" waves out in the big blue, telling me how worthless they are! :(

Whatta ya think new friends?
 
If you have the $$$, DO IT !! Now to answer your question. It is not the hassle that a boat is, I have both. The new 4-Tec's are easier to maintain in my opinion, based on my experience. They do require more attention than a
4-wheeler, but they are just as much fun and more exciting to ride. We just returned from a short vacation to Lake James in NC, which was a 1500 miles trip and we took the Seadoo. Had a great time and had no hassles or problems.

You only go around once, enjoy it.
Good Luck,
Jack
 
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You don't need to go as high-end as the Suspension/iBR systems, but you're money should go towards 255hp and you'll smile ear-to-ear, at all times !

The hassle of launching a PWC is reduced because of size, maneuvarability from a trailer/boating experience compared to a 21' Welcraft. We had 19' Welcraft and now a 21' Regal and the boat is always a pain in the butt. It sits in the boathouse, while the SeaDoo needs trailering and I get 10x more use than the boat because of the worry of rocks and the like on the stern-drive boat.

You are in FL, so I presume you have access to water year-round compared to us poor souls here in Ontario. I don't know what its like to ride in the Ocean, but assuming you can reach calmer waterways, you won't regret this purchase.

Go for it.
 
Thanks guys

Man, you guys are awesome, thank you for taking the time to reply to newbie here!

Jack,
So not quite as big of a hassle as a hole in the water...hehh hmmm, I mean, "A BOAT". No, totally kidding, I enjoy boats ery much, I just know that the cost and maintenace of such a craft should be considered later in my case :), Afterall, Im single, 24, and in college.
Its great to know that the 4-TEC is a good engine, when I followed jet skis a few years ago the first 4 stroke was coming out: it was the Honda 750 TURBO; things hae changed since then!

During my recon, my local dealer salesman was condemming: "that alot of people wash the exterior of the ski when finished but not the engine bay" :O I was sum-what suprised to find that the dealer recommended that I wash the engine and possibly put WD-40 "onatop" ( < Bond, James Bond.)
When I washed my quads, whether it was the 4X4 in the mud or the racer in the trails I was always careful with the engine, I use degreaser and then washed off... I DONT hae $15K sitting around, Ill be financing! But, after the extreme continous smile I had in Haiti, I WANT ONE!

I appreciate your adice friend, and Im thinking just like you: "you only enjoy life once"


MooF,
Thanks MooF!
I am a high-end shopper...and not for the reason you may think.. I buy TOP-END and NEW simply because I know that I am going to own the machine for a long time(plus, ofcourse, I get to break it in and serice it first. and I do enjoy owning an extremely fast, cutting edge machine with all the new gadgets ) and that way my machine is as top notch as I can get it, and is outdated a little less-quickly and stays up to date longer. I can already imagine 300 and 320hp models with suspension and brakes on all brands and models, so I guess its kinda: preparation...? Plus coming from the fourwheeler world, and seeing its progression in the last half to full decade, they gonna make IRS racing fourwheelers before you know it :)
I took a ride on one of my friends boats that was a Regal, it was like 33'? It was just big enough to classify as a Yacht(He had the certificaton, but it was almost a joke because it wasnt THAT enormous, NOT that it wasnt nice, it had 450 HP 8 cylinder with a counter rotating prop(hope I said it right, it was 2 props on one shaft and they spun counter to each other) and full cubby with beds and such)

But, YEAH MON!! (I just made a trip to Jamaica) Ill be riding that ski, I'll go buy a wet suit if I hae to, atleast ill be comfortable. There are so many places down here where you can just dock at a resturant. My biggest problem at this point is trying to find some folks to ride with....

Thanks Friends, I reallly appreciate your responses!
- twich
 
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Hey man,

Well, I was in the EXACT same predicament as you are right now. I'm 28 years old and I bought a brand new Suzuki KingQuad 700 two years ago. Later that year, I also bought a *MINT* 2004 Ski-doo Legend 500SS (600cc) from a family friend, after riding my uncle's earlier that year. Both of these purchases I have NOT regretted. I live just north of Toronto and I take my quad out almost everyday for a good ride on the trails or through town and during a nice snow storm, I take the Ski-Doo out onto the trails from morning till night and it's a blast. The bottom line is that I can take these two toys out anytime I want, straight from the garage and onto the trails (weather permitting of course) without any trailering anywhere (unless I want to of course).

Anyway, so late this summer, my dad and I went to the local toy dealership to look for a snowmobile for him and I ended up walking out with a 2009 SeaDoo 255 RXT iS. Holy sh*t! What a toy!!! You already know about the iBR, iS and iControl so I won't go into that, but OMG what a machine!!! I'm like you, and I do my homework and enjoy purchasing top-of-the-line stuff (unless I can get a crazy-good deal on something smaller, like the snowmobile I bought). So, I also took into account the maintenance (winterizing, initial break-in period maintenance, oil changes, etc), the insurance and any operator's licences you might need in your area. Also, depending on your riding, these machines need fuel and if you're going to be trailering it around (I live about 5 minutes from the marina but I tow it there all the time), then you'll need to take that into consideration.

Overall, I absolutely LOVE my toys and I take really good care of them. You're like me with our age and you seem to do your homework before buying stuff too, so I hope you choose something you'll enjoy for years to come. The main difference is that you live in FL, so you'll probably use your SeaDoo more often (although I put on 12 hours in 5 days on mine the week I bought it, LOL!)... And you don't need to winterize yours since you'll be using it year-round. On the other hand, I'm using mine in fresh water only and your situration/location is different.

Let me know if you have any questions. I'd love to discuss it with you. As I've found out, whichever machine you choose, I'm sure you'll have a blast with it! :)
 
They are totally worth the purchase, i would have gone top end if i would have had the money, in fact, i am looking at the new 2010 GTX's, and i wish i had those, love the red and white, i prefer the new analog/digital combo on the information center. That being said, my girlfriend and I enjoy our 2008 GTX 215's They handle like a dream, I went with the 3 seater for stability, and i dont regret it. The reboard ladder is a nice feature to have, it helps with the initial boarding and reboarding in deeper water. I wish you the best of luck, and post pictures when you get it :D
 
Whatta Great Spot~!!

Thanks everyone for the replies! I even get an email when you guys reply! This hobby is publicised or advertised very little it seems - boats sure, but PWC...I have had significant difficulty finding magazines for this hobby at any local Publix or CVS. I found PWC Mag online and am still trying to figure out how to subscribe to it online. Each visit to the local stores I always found 4 wheelers and Mustangs and Diesel Trucks and such, and like: 1 boating mag but not specific to PWCs. Is it that the sport/hobby hasn't risen to these levels yet or is it that not most people can't afford water sports?( < afterall they are more/much more expensive) to me, the more it costs the better it is...hehe :) I cant say it enough how much I appreciate all of your guys' help with the newbie here!

WaveKing,
Thanks for your reply friend. It seems we have similar scenarios indeed. I had a Big Bear 400 4X4 (01' model) and used to play in the woods and mud and stuff, but back then, utility quads were NOTHING like the new ones!

Hey I heard from a VERY reliable source that "snowmobiles have the fastesst acceleration of anything i've ever riden" < is this true? the way i figure is that these things were made for transportation AND sport...?

Thats so awesome that you went to the toy spot and picked one up that day!! Did you get a pretty good deal? Did you already have a trailer? You are pretty pleased that you bought the suspension model ??? Does it work good ???????????!!!!!! I know the adjustability has to have some significance.. How about the VTS, how quickly does it work? Which setting do you run most of the time? Are the VTS settings satisfying? Next, How about the learning key? Is it easy to change settings?? For example: I know that I am going to be having quite a few very amateur riders hitting this thing and also some wanna-bes thinking they can handle anyting, wanting to hit this thing wide open first run! As you know I come from the racing quad world and in my town, I have seen quite a few "wanna-bes" get seriously hurt on the same very fast machines that my racing buddy and I prefer to ride. With QUADS, you can't be stupid, you'll hit a tree, a stump or a ditch and could even get fataly injured. (<there have been a few in my area) I only say this to gain insight from you, this is a serious concern with a machine like this, NOT that I wont buy it!!! But so that I know WHO should ride it..
Ive read that you can control it from 35mph, 50mph or WIDE OPEN with the learning key...
I love to take care of my machines aswell, they treat you like you treat them right? lol Hey do I need the local shop to do the 10 hour maintenance or can I do it myself? BREAK IN: do you go easy on it for the first 10 hours or certain amount of miles or is the engine already broke in?


hitman782,
Its so nice to hear you enjoy your Sea-Doo, Im sure the 215 is still very quick! My first experience was a 130. Ive debated about the GTX for all of its features, (including Luxury suspension vs. Sport) but the darn MSRP is $1500 more than the sport model and I KNOW im gonna be riding aggresively. I think ill get the RXT and get the reboard ladder after the fact. I've also seen the wake boarding deal they sell, that contraption that fills up with water to add weight at the back!! MAN!! What an innovative idea, I may get one of those down the road! I surely will post pictures when I get the machine, thanks again
- Dave
 
Twitchstile,

I love my quad. I ride it almost everyday. As I said before, I bought it brand new in May 2007 and 2.5 years later, I put 7,550km (4,700 miles) on it already. Looking at it though, you'd think it's pretty much brand new (I've been asked if its new a few times on the trails, LOL!) and rides like new too.

The snowmobile is a completely different machine. Its a cross-over between a trail sled and a racing sled. Crazy acceleration, does about 165km/h (105mph) on the frozen lake/river and yet has very nice handling and a comfortable ride on the trails. I think that's so important because after about 6+ hours, I don't want to come home and feeling like I've been run over by a Mack truck instead of having a relaxing ride in the snow with my buddies. I see you're in Florida, but if you ever get a chance, go up north (or come here to Canada in the winter) and go for a snowmobile ride. They have "snowmobile adventure tours" here in Ontario and we also have about 40,000kms (about 25,000 miles) of trails here. Once you're out of your garage and you hit a trail system, you can ride almost anywhere in the province for days or weeks on end! There are even huts, motels and chalets that are used only in the winter time for snowmobilers who need to stop, rest, warm up and have a good night's sleep. Most trails go through small towns and have gas stations on route. It's a multi-million dollar business here (and in Quebec, where the trails can take you there too!). I ride my ATV through town and I see that every garage here has either an ATV or snowmobile (or a boat). People are so active! In fact, last year I went out on the lake with my sled and there was what looked like a CITY of ice-fishing huts. THOUSANDS (I'm not kidding) of huts littered all over the bay (about a few hundres feet apart), some with snowmobiles, others with pickup trucks parked outside. Closer to shore, there were people riding snowmobiles on the trails (some of the trails actually go on the fozen lakes/rivers), people walking their dogs or going for walks with the family, people snowboarding with these parachutes (kind of like parasailing?) on the ice and closer to shore, there was a big area that was plowed of the snow and the ice was exposed... I rode in closer and realized that the crowd was gathered around about 15-20 people who were drag racing their snowmobiles. OMG, that was insane. Most of those sleds were on NOS too, you could smell it!

The bottom line is that people are really active here in the winter time, especially on a sunny day on a weekend! As far as the acceleration on these snowmobiles, its really insane. I think I can say that my stock 600cc, 110hp cross-over sled can do about 0-60mph in about 2-3 seconds, which I think is pretty damn quick. Mind you that my track is studded and when those steel studs dig into the hard ice, you better be damn sure you're hanging on real tight. LOL! Honestly, take a trip up north or come here to Canada and try out a snowmobile. You'll probably wish it snowed in Florida after that experience. ;-)

SNOWMOBILING VIDEOS:
  1. Love this one, these guys have awesome videos...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0coC6fBSx7c&feature=related
  2. One more, they always make me wish for a snowstorm, even in the dead heat of summer, LOL!...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOlZY-sxw-0&feature=related
  3. Deep powder in British Columbia, Canada...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=af5PPbGx9Gc&feature=related
  4. Some crazy sh*t here, skimming across semi-frozen open water (1 sled sinks!)...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-QzE_i0qwE
  5. Riding around through town, I just like this one, reminds me of me in the winter...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vaVDd-G78U&feature=player_profilepage#t=65
  6. Typical scene around my place, SO much fun...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qan99FSgBzI
  7. I love shredding new powder (oops, out of gas!)...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnFvBeX0-Rs

I hope you enjoy those!



As far as [getting back to] the Seadoo (LOL), I picked it up at the end of the season. They were packing the place up with snowmobiles and had already put away some of the Seadoo's, so they were giving good deals on them because they wanted to clear them out as much as possible. The more expensive ones were going for bigger discounts, since they're harder to sell of course, so I said why not? I didn't have a trailer, so I ended up buying an all-aluminum one (instead of the cheaper steel one that will rust over the years and will need to be repainted) with waterproof lights and a jack stand.

I'm extremely happy with the machine. No problems with it and I took it in for the 10 hour service in about 5 days. The dealership was like, "wtf? ...already???" ... LOL! The VTS is adjustable and works really well. It actually shows the bow (on the dash) of the Seadoo and you choose how high you want the bow to go, not the actual VTS, get it? So you press the UP button on the VTS and the dash shows the bow as going up (but you know the VTS is going up of course). You can also save the VTS settings along with other settings like how hard/soft you want the iS (suspension), or automatic iS mode. I usually set the suspension to AUTO and I watch people's eye light up when I fire up the machine and the suspension lifts itself before I take off. I love the look on their faces, priceless! As far as the VTS, I'll usually have it low or middle, and when I know I'm going for pure speed and the lake isn't choppy, I'll set it higher, so just the back of the machine is skimming on the water. And let me tell you, this thing is FAST!!! But for getting around, I'm usually doing about 60km/h and I like setting the cruise control at that speed (yes, it has that too!).

Regarding the Learning Key, I have it (the green one), but I've never even used it. LOL! I believe that it restricts the maximum speed to about 50km/h (35mph or so), which is reasonable for some people who have never ridden one before. Also, one important thing to ALWAYS remember (and tell whoever is riding your Seadoo) is NEVER accelerate fast in shallow water. You'll end up sucking in sand/rocks/sediments into the intake jet and it might damage your impeller or bearings, etc. Also, I know what you mean with being careful. Even though I'm pretty young, I'm quite careful when I get a new toy and I'm comfortable with them now (except the Seadoo) that I'm not afraid of them, but one has to also be careful not to cross the fine line between confidence and cockiness. ;-) With my Seadoo though, I've only let my dad actually steer it. Everyone else was a passenger. Also, the local laws here state you must have an Operator's Card, otherwise its an automatic $250 fine, and trust me, there's cops here on boats and Seadoos! So that gets rid of my problems (since nobody wants to get a ticket). LOL!

As far as the break-in period... There is a light that goes on when you need to get the machine serviced and a "MAINTENANCE REQUIRED" message that scrolls across the screen when you put the key in... Otherwise it just says "WELCOME ABOARD SEA-DOO". LOL! My face lights up whenever I read that! So many little details like that I love about this machine! Anyway, there are a lot of things that the dealership checks/inspects/replaces. I was just saying in another post on here that I really think that the 10 hour break-in maintenace is probably THE most important one you will ever do and there are a lot of things that they do on the machine, so its important to get it done on time and properly. Also, you need a specialized computer to reset the messages and lights and stuff (uses the B.U.D.S. system). These computers tell the dealer everything about your machine, including the RPM's, speed, error messages, maintenance performed at XX hours, etc. etc. etc. They use that information to repair it or to provide warranty on the motor. So that means that if you used your machine for much longer than 10 hours or you didn't get it serviced when you got error codes in the future, they can turn around and hassle you about it or deny you your warranty alltogether, saying that you didn't get the machine serviced within a reasonable time. Get what I mean? As far as the 10 hours are concerned, I gave it WOT a few times, but not too often and not too long. They just said to vary the speed and not to over-work the machine during break-in. I think maintenance is at 10 hours, 25, 50, 75, 100 and every 50 hours after that or something. I'll need to check the manual. And you need to have your supercharger thoroughly inspected (taken apart I think) every 100 hours. The computer says something like "SUPERCHARGER MAINTENANCE REQUIRED" or something of that nature.

SEA-DOO VIDEOS:

Okay, I think I'm done writing this novel. LOL! If you have anymore questions, ask! :)
 
chillholm said:
Three words....." Just do IT!!"

You jump off the plane and worry whether the parashute opens latter!! LOL!
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LMAO!!! :rofl:

That's exactly what I did! I went skydiving last year and was thinking the same thing! This year, I did it again, but I bought a Seadoo and decided to stick to the water instead of the air.

Chillholm, I think you mean "Just DOO it!" :rofl:
 
I live just north of Newmarket and I'm usually launching on the Holland River and riding onto Cook's Bay from there, or sometimes I'll trailer it to Innisfil and launch from there! MooF, are you on Lake Simcoe often? I've never been past Innisfil and always wanted to go to Barrie or better yet, Wasaga Beach! Judging by this weather though, maybe next year. :(
 
King is the king

you the King man!! I read it ALL, you got me pumped up again!! Im sum-what regretting I wasnt in Ontario... The trails, like you say, are not possible for me down here.
I think I will NOT ALLOW anyone to steer except my father as you do. This is clearly too serious of a machine for a amatuer and too difficult to try and tell/teach someone not to hit sand bars or anything and not damage my 15k prize. Im glad I asked about that because I WAS wondering.

My sister has married a man that has 4 brothers and most of em are married most of them hae kids, all young ofcourse. But one of the brothers bought a pontoon boat witha tiny motor and I can already picture them wanting me to let them ride it...sigh
 
iS toys.... and warranty!

WaveKing-255RXTiS said:
Twitchstile,

I love my quad. I ride it almost everyday. As I said before, I bought it brand new in May 2007 and 2.5 years later, I put 7,550km (4,700 miles) on it already. Looking at it though, you'd think it's pretty much brand new (I've been asked if its new a few times on the trails, LOL!) and rides like new too.

The snowmobile is a completely different machine. Its a cross-over between a trail sled and a racing sled. Crazy acceleration, does about 165km/h (105mph) on the frozen lake/river and yet has very nice handling and a comfortable ride on the trails. I think that's so important because after about 6+ hours, I don't want to come home and feeling like I've been run over by a Mack truck instead of having a relaxing ride in the snow with my buddies. I see you're in Florida, but if you ever get a chance, go up north (or come here to Canada in the winter) and go for a snowmobile ride. They have "snowmobile adventure tours" here in Ontario and we also have about 40,000kms (about 25,000 miles) of trails here. Once you're out of your garage and you hit a trail system, you can ride almost anywhere in the province for days or weeks on end! There are even huts, motels and chalets that are used only in the winter time for snowmobilers who need to stop, rest, warm up and have a good night's sleep. Most trails go through small towns and have gas stations on route. It's a multi-million dollar business here (and in Quebec, where the trails can take you there too!). I ride my ATV through town and I see that every garage here has either an ATV or snowmobile (or a boat). People are so active! In fact, last year I went out on the lake with my sled and there was what looked like a CITY of ice-fishing huts. THOUSANDS (I'm not kidding) of huts littered all over the bay (about a few hundres feet apart), some with snowmobiles, others with pickup trucks parked outside. Closer to shore, there were people riding snowmobiles on the trails (some of the trails actually go on the fozen lakes/rivers), people walking their dogs or going for walks with the family, people snowboarding with these parachutes (kind of like parasailing?) on the ice and closer to shore, there was a big area that was plowed of the snow and the ice was exposed... I rode in closer and realized that the crowd was gathered around about 15-20 people who were drag racing their snowmobiles. OMG, that was insane. Most of those sleds were on NOS too, you could smell it!

The bottom line is that people are really active here in the winter time, especially on a sunny day on a weekend! As far as the acceleration on these snowmobiles, its really insane. I think I can say that my stock 600cc, 110hp cross-over sled can do about 0-60mph in about 2-3 seconds, which I think is pretty damn quick. Mind you that my track is studded and when those steel studs dig into the hard ice, you better be damn sure you're hanging on real tight. LOL! Honestly, take a trip up north or come here to Canada and try out a snowmobile. You'll probably wish it snowed in Florida after that experience. ;-)

SNOWMOBILING VIDEOS:
  1. Love this one, these guys have awesome videos...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0coC6fBSx7c&feature=related
  2. One more, they always make me wish for a snowstorm, even in the dead heat of summer, LOL!...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOlZY-sxw-0&feature=related
  3. Deep powder in British Columbia, Canada...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=af5PPbGx9Gc&feature=related
  4. Some crazy sh*t here, skimming across semi-frozen open water (1 sled sinks!)...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-QzE_i0qwE
  5. Riding around through town, I just like this one, reminds me of me in the winter...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vaVDd-G78U&feature=player_profilepage#t=65
  6. Typical scene around my place, SO much fun...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qan99FSgBzI
  7. I love shredding new powder (oops, out of gas!)...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnFvBeX0-Rs

I hope you enjoy those!



As far as [getting back to] the Seadoo (LOL), I picked it up at the end of the season. They were packing the place up with snowmobiles and had already put away some of the Seadoo's, so they were giving good deals on them because they wanted to clear them out as much as possible. The more expensive ones were going for bigger discounts, since they're harder to sell of course, so I said why not? I didn't have a trailer, so I ended up buying an all-aluminum one (instead of the cheaper steel one that will rust over the years and will need to be repainted) with waterproof lights and a jack stand.

I'm extremely happy with the machine. No problems with it and I took it in for the 10 hour service in about 5 days. The dealership was like, "wtf? ...already???" ... LOL! The VTS is adjustable and works really well. It actually shows the bow (on the dash) of the Seadoo and you choose how high you want the bow to go, not the actual VTS, get it? So you press the UP button on the VTS and the dash shows the bow as going up (but you know the VTS is going up of course). You can also save the VTS settings along with other settings like how hard/soft you want the iS (suspension), or automatic iS mode. I usually set the suspension to AUTO and I watch people's eye light up when I fire up the machine and the suspension lifts itself before I take off. I love the look on their faces, priceless! As far as the VTS, I'll usually have it low or middle, and when I know I'm going for pure speed and the lake isn't choppy, I'll set it higher, so just the back of the machine is skimming on the water. And let me tell you, this thing is FAST!!! But for getting around, I'm usually doing about 60km/h and I like setting the cruise control at that speed (yes, it has that too!).

Regarding the Learning Key, I have it (the green one), but I've never even used it. LOL! I believe that it restricts the maximum speed to about 50km/h (35mph or so), which is reasonable for some people who have never ridden one before. Also, one important thing to ALWAYS remember (and tell whoever is riding your Seadoo) is NEVER accelerate fast in shallow water. You'll end up sucking in sand/rocks/sediments into the intake jet and it might damage your impeller or bearings, etc. Also, I know what you mean with being careful. Even though I'm pretty young, I'm quite careful when I get a new toy and I'm comfortable with them now (except the Seadoo) that I'm not afraid of them, but one has to also be careful not to cross the fine line between confidence and cockiness. ;-) With my Seadoo though, I've only let my dad actually steer it. Everyone else was a passenger. Also, the local laws here state you must have an Operator's Card, otherwise its an automatic $250 fine, and trust me, there's cops here on boats and Seadoos! So that gets rid of my problems (since nobody wants to get a ticket). LOL!

As far as the break-in period... There is a light that goes on when you need to get the machine serviced and a "MAINTENANCE REQUIRED" message that scrolls across the screen when you put the key in... Otherwise it just says "WELCOME ABOARD SEA-DOO". LOL! My face lights up whenever I read that! So many little details like that I love about this machine! Anyway, there are a lot of things that the dealership checks/inspects/replaces. I was just saying in another post on here that I really think that the 10 hour break-in maintenace is probably THE most important one you will ever do and there are a lot of things that they do on the machine, so its important to get it done on time and properly. Also, you need a specialized computer to reset the messages and lights and stuff (uses the B.U.D.S. system). These computers tell the dealer everything about your machine, including the RPM's, speed, error messages, maintenance performed at XX hours, etc. etc. etc. They use that information to repair it or to provide warranty on the motor. So that means that if you used your machine for much longer than 10 hours or you didn't get it serviced when you got error codes in the future, they can turn around and hassle you about it or deny you your warranty alltogether, saying that you didn't get the machine serviced within a reasonable time. Get what I mean? As far as the 10 hours are concerned, I gave it WOT a few times, but not too often and not too long. They just said to vary the speed and not to over-work the machine during break-in. I think maintenance is at 10 hours, 25, 50, 75, 100 and every 50 hours after that or something. I'll need to check the manual. And you need to have your supercharger thoroughly inspected (taken apart I think) every 100 hours. The computer says something like "SUPERCHARGER MAINTENANCE REQUIRED" or something of that nature.

SEA-DOO VIDEOS:

Okay, I think I'm done writing this novel. LOL! If you have anymore questions, ask! :)
Click to expand...


This has to be one of the best written, best advice I have seen in our forum in a very, very long time.

The experience WaveKing-255RXTiS has with using the service systems and warranty with the BRP service center appears to be second to none. I hope those in the forum, who I have preached to about NOT doing your own 10 hour maintenance, reads his post.

His comments about the 10 hour service with the dealership using the VCK (vehicle communication kit) and the B.U.D.S. (bombardier utility diagnostic sotware) could not have been said better. So many of you that buy the newer models, that believe that all they do is change the oil for your 10 hour service, need to read this thread. You don't only have my comments about this service and how important it is to your warranty but the comments of a new owner who has actually done this and either got a itemized breakdown of what they did or he watched them.

When they check the system with the B.U.D.S. software, it tells them so much about the engines performance, that you could have a problem and not even know about it. Whether it's a sensor about to fail or the B.U.D.S. sofware showing the supercharger isn't spinning up to it's required rpm for boost, these guys see this on that 10 hour service. And like I have said umpteen million times, if you do the work yourself or have some off the wall, non certified BRP mechanic do it and something breaks, guess who's paying for it? YOU.....BRP will see this as the best excuse to VOID your warranty.

I rode one of these puppies this past year at our "Seadoo Ride-in" down in Vencie beach. A dealership brought one out for demonstration. This thing is awesome fast. That said, ......I can also hint to twichstile, who is worried that a friend or family member might want to take it for a spin,......hint,hint, ...they come with a learner key. So, when they want to ride, take off your full power key and put the learner key on. That way, you know they can't act a fool on it.

One last thing to say. Those of you that have the money, I say go for it. Personally, I own and ride the older Seadoo's for one reason. I can fix them. At some point in the ski's lifetime, it's going to get old and a sensor or something will break. At this moment in time, the labor charge is about $110dollars an hour. So, in 4 or 5 years, when you have a sensor failure that shuts down the engine..............be prepared to pay for this ski all over again. The price tag for a troubleshoot and repair on say, ...oh a Supercharger for instance, can run you into the thousands.........so, deep wallets are a must for these skis..................:cheers:
 
Hey Snipe, thanks for the comment. Well, I've been talking to some people and the service deptartment manager is really cool. After buying the RXT iS from them and getting it serviced there (dad's friend recommended them for excellent service), he knows me by name and takes the time to make sure things are done right and done the way I want them. We talk, so I know a little bit about how things are with these machines. I really enjoy the great service and I just gave them my Ski-Doo to prepare it for the winter riding season and give it a good check-over (again, dad's friend had this same Ski-Doo in with them every fall and has never ever had any problems with the machine in the dead of winter). So I trust them, and I would probably give them my ATV to work on if I ever needed to.

The bottom line ... "You gotta pay to play" is the best way of putting it! A lot of [cheap] people buy a machine and then they skimp out on the maintenance and other expenses because they didn't calculate that into the budget. The end result? A day or season of frustrations and bad-mouthing good brands. These toys are still machines, and at the end of the day, they WILL require maintenance, whether a simple look-over (fluid levels, etc.) or a complete overhaul. So do YOURSELF and your baby a favour and just take good care of it. Based upon my personal experiences, if you treat your machine right, it will definitely return the favour and give you years of pure fun! :cheers:
 
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