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Help with Loss of Power

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TechiMan

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Hey All, I Think I know the Answer from reading the forums here but I want to be sure, on The weekend my Brother in Law Tried to run into the trailer with my 2007 Wake 155, Since he decided it was not a good idea to do so with all of us siting there on the beach he pulled it into reverse and gunned it, So as you all have probably guessed he sucked up some Nice Lake Ontario stones. :( So after Swinging the craft back on the trailer I pulled it back up on shore and had a look with a good light and pulled out a nicely crushed stone. Everything looked clear so back into the Lake and testing..... Now it Idles just Fine but it seems to have almost no Power out of the hole but it will get almost to top speed. so I am guessing from my reading here that the Impeller is Cavitating and the Wear Ring might be damaged? Also where is the Best Place to get a gelcoat repair kit as I also have a loonie sized hole where it looks like the black layer has come off from hitting the trailer.

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you are right on with your impeller/wear ring diagnosis. As for gel coat I am looking into the same thing right now....I am starting to get little white marks from trailering all the time....where the seadoo rubs on the bunks. I have started putting my trailer in deeper to ensure that there is minimal rubbing.

I will keep you posted on what I find out. But if anyone else had any exp with this please chime in and let us know.

Matt
 
Loss of Power - replacement Impeller and reverse cable questions

OK So if its the Impeller can I Start with just Sanding or filing off the leading edge? If not The Dealer wants about $2k to change the impeller and ring as this seems a little high Is this a Job I can do myself If I just order the parts? are there special tools needed? and can I get away with a Rebuilt impeller or does anyone know of a place in Ontario that will refurbish my old impeller?

Thanks Again for all the Help.


On Another Note Has anyone heard of the reverse Cable Snapping, The cable itself did not snap but the threaded rod where it screws into the square block at the scoop end snapped off and when I looked at the end it looked like it was only holding by a very small rectangle of steel rather than the whole center of the rod, I was able to remove the broken off section of rod and re thread the remainder into the block but now the handle does not sit flat. I am hoping this will be covered under warranty when I take in in for winterizing.
 
2k for an impeller and wear ring??? wow....that is out of this world!!!

Most impellers can be refurbished as long as the damage is not too extreme. It is definatley something you can do yourself...only special tool you need is an impeller removal tool. Take a look at this....it is a post i found by meirvin in this thread: http://seadooforum.com/showthread.php?p=13497#post13497

Perfect instructions on how to do the job!

Ok I am all about sharing and helping as that is how I learned what I know as I couldn't change oil 3 years ago

RXP, RXT, GTX Wear Ring/Impeller xchange

Tools you need:

12mm Allen
Impeller tool (resembles pump shaft/different for GTX & RXP)
Bench vice
3 foot piece of strong pipe to slip the 12mm Allen into for use as pry bar
13mm socket with extension for venturi (and pump support pm GTX)
17mm socket with extension for pump housing
Pair of 10mm open wrentches, sockets or ratchet wrenches
Small Allen for pump cone removal
Smaller Allen for trim (RXP)
Blue and/or Red loctite
Anti-seize (optional)
Sea Doo Bearing Grease (only if needed)


Removing the Pump:

1. Use 13mm to remove bolts from pump support brace (GTX)
2. Use 10mm to remove OPAS bolts from OPAS arms
3. Use smaller Allen to remove pivot bolt from trim arm (RXP)
4. Don't remove the spring, you don't need to unless you are changing venturis
5. Use 10mm to remove steering cable linkage
6. Use 10mm to remove reverse linkage
7. Use 13mm with extension to remove venturi (use a drill to speed it up)
8. Use 17mm with extenstion to remove pump housing (again drill, just make sure you go easy as not to damage anything)
9. Slide the pump housing off the pump shaft and out of the ski


Changing the Prop:

10. Remove pump nose cone (either pops off or is threaded depending on year/make)
11. Put impeller tool in vice facing splines up
12. Slide pump impeller splines side down on the impeller tool
13. Use medium Allen to remove three bolts from pump cone
14. Lightly tap nose cone with rubber mallot until you get some space
15. Gently rock pump cone back and forth to work it out (Might need a flat head screwdriver the first time, but be gentle)
16. Once pump cone is removed, you will see the 12mm Allen hole
17. Put 12mm Allen in this spot and slide breaker bar/pipe down the end of the Allen
18. Turn counter clockwise to loosen (and clockwise to tighten.)
19. Loosen the Allen until it gets easy enough to turn by hand.
20. Take the pump off the vice/impeller tool and use your hand on the impeller and 12mm Allen to spin the prop off the shaft.


Swapping out wear rings:
(If you are swapping wear rings, add these steps. If not, just jump to the next section)

21. Once you get the prop out, take off the rubber pump seal
22. Pop the whole pump in the freezer for a little while.
23. Place the new wear ring in there too.
24. After an hour or two and its nice and cold, take it all out of the freezer.
25. Grab the damaged (white) wear ring with some channel locks and it will slide right out.
26. Slide the new one in
27. Replace the pump seal (and put a little marine grease around it.)


Putting it All Back Together:

Now working in reverse from step 20 to 13, replace the prop. You might want to put some anti seize on the prop shaft threads. And make sure to use some sort of loctite when putting the venturi and pump bolts back in. I would recommend blue on the venturi and blue on the pump housing until you find a final prop pitch. Then use red loctite on the pump housing bolts.

As far as how tight. I do the little bolts just snug and let the loctite do the rest. On the prop, I just lean into it until it stops spinning. But on the pump bolts, I crank the hell out of them. I don't know what the real specs are. I also like to check and clean the seal of the pump housing before putting it back into the ski.

I don't know that it makes a difference, but I clean the area where the pump housing slides into the pump shoe. Then I put a thin layer of Marine Grease on it to make sure it mates up well. When you go to slide the pump housing back in you may have to lift the shaft coming from the ski to get it to slide in. Once on the shaft, the pump may stop an inch out. This means the prop needs to be lined up on the splines. I usually just back it up a hair and reach over the top of the pump with my fingers and turn the prop slightly. I just repeat that process until it successfully slides flush with the mounting points.

Then start at step 8 and work backwards:

8. Use 17mm with extenstion to tighten pump housing (again drill, just make sure you go easy as not to damage anything)
7. Use 13mm with extension to tighten venturi (use a drill to speed it up)
6. Use 10mm to tighten reverse linkage
5. Use 10mm to tighten steering cable linkage
4. Don't remove the spring, you don't need to unless you are changing venturis
3. Use smaller Allen to tighten pivot bolt from trim arm (RXP)
2. Use 10mm to tighten OPAS bolts from OPAS arms
1. Use 13mm to tighten bolts from pump support brace (GTX)[/u]


about the cable...I would assume it is covered under warranty.

Hope this helps!

Matt
 
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