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RodInEscondido

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Ok, you asked me to post ... you may be sorry.

old fart, looking at retirement projects (as if motorcycles, boats, trucks and airplanes are not enough), cruising Craigslist saw 98 GTS "project" for cheap, but claimed to be complete. Not having a PWC before, I figured I really needed another project. No title/registration, but not registered in CA made it a little easier to get new title although time-consuming. I did not want to invest $/time then find it was stolen and need to give it away. Engine does not turn over, spending a lot of time SLOWLY attempting to loosen bolts and squirting fluid all over things. It looks like "Magilla the mechanic" had an early hand at working on it. No trailer, but it fit nicely in the back of "The Beast" (88 F350 for towing around the 77 Searay Sundancer ... another story).

Back on CL I found "everything-but-the hull" from a 98 GS for cheap ... looked like the same 717 engine to me (learning slowly). Slowly trying to disassemble this one too ... will not turn over. I may just put the engine in a tub, fill it up with cleaning solvent and let it sit out in the sun for a few days to see what loosens up.

Back on CL I found a 89 SP with single trailer for really cheap; it looked pretty good and the engine turned over freely. There is some oil in the bilge to clean up and find the source of the leak. Again, I did not want to invest $/time if I could not get title. This one was registered in CA last in 95, but real hassles at DMV ... took over 6 months to get it straightened out so just got started looking at general cleanup, fuel/oil lines/filters, etc. My story: I needed the trailer, but had to take the ski with it.

By now my woman is starting to look at me strangely and even making some comments. Any hints on dealing with redheads is appreciated ... she just does not understand.

Back on CL (a pattern is starting to emerge) I found a really dirt-cheap 580 Rotax that really needed a home next to the 717 in my garage.

Back on CL I found a 91 SP complete for free. Not CA so should be able to get title rather easily (whatever that means in CA). Engine does not turn over.

Back on CL I found a 90 SP with roll-around cart and beach launch rig for really cheap, just had to have it; figured i should be able to get 2 of the 89/90/91 runing. PO said the engine was rebuilt in 03 and had 15-20 hours on it when he saw water seeping out of the engine around the spark plugs. My guess is that it may have just been the o-rings, but he got another head and all the gaskets and broke off 2 of the head mount bolts. Was last registered in CA/95 so need to fight title stuff again before doing significant work. this one looks like the easiest to get going, engine turns over smoothly.

Redhead is starting to cross her arms and tap her toes as she gives me the evil eye while I stand innocently in the middle of the 4 SeaDoos with a cold drink deciding where to start. Maybe I should stay off CraigsList for a little while. Women just do not understand.

I have been perusing the site for a little while and find a lot of good information and helpful, knowledgeable people.

I have been around boats, motorcycles, airplanes, and other wierd mechanical devices so am no stranger to greasy hands. I grew up on an island in Alaska in the logging camps, fishing communities and machine shops. I cannot figure out why I have not been into PWC before now.

I think my initial interest in SeaDoo is because of the use of the Rotax power plant and the fact that the Rotax is very commonly in use in homebuilt airplanes. There are things that can be cross-bread both ways.

I have some specific questions that i will attempt to get posted in the proper places.

thanks for putting up with me

Rod In Escondido, CA
 
Welcome Rod,
I grew up with 2 red headed sisters. I can tell you with quite certainty that there are no hints on dealing with them to be had. Everything you ever heard about red head tempers is very true. :cheers:
 
Rod - Welcome to the forum.

You story on CL sounds like a Jake/Lou story.....HAHAHAHA

So you went from ZERO to 4 Seadoos in a matter of a week or so. That should keep you busy until next Spring at least.
Wish I had an "old fart" like you living next to me, I have a feeling you know more about motors than the seadoo dealers, even with the rotax being somewhat new to you.
Good luck...post some before and after pics.
 
Rod - Welcome to the forum.

You story on CL sounds like a Jake/Lou story.....HAHAHAHA

So you went from ZERO to 4 Seadoos in a matter of a week or so. That should keep you busy until next Spring at least.
Wish I had an "old fart" like you living next to me, I have a feeling you know more about motors than the seadoo dealers, even with the rotax being somewhat new to you.
Good luck...post some before and after pics.

don't despair, I'm sure there is an old fart out there for you
 
Rod, tell your wife to pick out which ski she wants for herself, maybe that will help get her on board with your project.

SDB, check if NAMBLA has a forum. They'll get you hooked up with an old fart. Make sure you use api-tc low ass lube.
 
thanks much for the kind greeting words
i did not think there would be much in the way of effective "redhead" advice, but i needed to try
being a former redhead (all turned white) i sometimes have a difficult time keeping from agitating
seadoobuddy, thanks for the vote of confidence ... i will think of that the next time i pull a bone-headed stunt where all i can do is laugh at myself
bigjake, the redhead already cast her eyes on the 90 SP, says it is "cute", so that "MAY" affect the decision on which one to get going first
my plans are to pull everything apart, and do cleanup of oil/fuel systems
danged work keeps getting in the way of playing with toys ... retirement soon
i will take some before/after pictures ... if anything good i will share
 
Rod, you are not agitating me at all. Sorry if my "old fart" nickname offended you, I just thought it was funny that you said you were an "OF"
 
Rod, you are not agitating me at all. Sorry if my "old fart" nickname offended you, I just thought it was funny that you said you were an "OF"

not directed at you at all ... i was trying to say i tend to violate one of the basic rules and tend to intentionally agitate "the redhead" in my life

i generally say "call me anything but late for lunch"
 
...Kinda seems like Rod could be swimming into the middle of a minefield.

Deeper into the minefield.

I found a nice trailer, the catch was that I needed to take the attached 94 GTS so I now have 5 inoperable skis, but at least 2 of them have engines that turn over. I was able to hide the new stuff among the rest of them for about 2 weeks before the redhead caught on.

My main problems/frustrations I currently have is with frozen/broken bolts (I personally only broke one). I must continuously remind myself: "patience, patience" as I start reaching for the cold chissel and 5-pound hammer.

The real complication to making progress is that I am working full-time still which really gets in the way of my hobbies.

The other complication is that I can only work on the skis in early morning or late afternoon, else it has been too warm to be out in the sun. They are all covered up but outside which is not really a problem here.
 
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