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slvr bulit

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I recently purchased a 96 XP800. The thing started right up on the trailer and looked in decent shape. 1st time we went out it would idle fine in the no wake zone then when you started to go it would die. Found the problem to be the fuel selector switch. Cleaned that out(no I haven't taken the carbs out and cleaned them yet) 2nd time out the thing ran great I mean it went fast very responsive I was quite happy. After ridding for 20 min came in took seat off and there was 4-6" of water in it. Drained water out and took back to house and hooked flush kit to it. Notice water coming from between head and cylinder while it was running, thought it was a gasket after taking the head off notice cylinder had a crack. Damn!!! Is this common? I know the machine is 12 years old just wondering if this happens alot. Sorry so long.
 
im going to have to say no, not very common. And I would think one of the more costly things in the ski.

www.sbtontheweb.com has a cylinder exchange program but you will prolly get charged some since its cracked.
 
Yeah, I order the cylinder exchange from them. Looking at the inside of the head it looks like it was never flushed out. Hope this ends the troubles
 
do not buy from SBT if you don't have a good core!!! they are rapists for core charge! otherwise they are a good company. buy a used cul on ebay. you can probly get a standard one for cheap and run the piston and rings you have for the rest of the season.
 
Bad experiences.......

derek, you had a bad experience from SBT and if you'd like to pass this info on to the members, then your free to do that but please, just because you had a bad experience, doesn't mean everyone else has.

Inform the members "in your opinion" or "in your experience".......but not to sterotype or tag them as "rapists", that's inappropiate.

I"ve used SBT on several occasions, 2 motors, 4 crank assemblies and a few top end kits. They do specifically state on their home page, that if your core is in need of welding, there will be an extra charge. I was charged an extra $75 dollars on a crack in the casing.......I knew it.

My best advice to slvr bulit is to call their toll free number, tell them what you got in the best description you can give them, ask them what they think the charge will be, with the core exchange and repairs, then decide. If you continue to do the business with them, please close out your conversation with the rep on the phone, by asking his/her name. So, you'll have something to go on in the event, the charges are different than what they quoted you on the phone.

My experiences with them has been excellent. My last purchase was a busted up impeller. I got a nice remanafactured OEM impeller and sent them back one that was all twisted and mangled from sucking up a pretty good size rock........had to replace bearings and wearing ring too......:cheers:
 
do not buy from SBT if you don't have a good core!!! they are rapists for core charge! otherwise they are a good company. buy a used cul on ebay. you can probly get a standard one for cheap and run the piston and rings you have for the rest of the season.
I may be wrong but I believe that Derek may be younger than us Louis or from a different city. Let me try interpret what I believe what Derek means in our old school language. [I would buy a used part off of ebay before I would go to sbt. Do not get me wrong they are very nice people and have a very good buisness but with times as hard as they are you may find a beter value on seviceable cores on ebay and you could possibly run your machine for the rest of the year with the ebay core and then in the winter months you could send in the ebay core to sbt as your core and save money and then do the job right.] and at the same time you are saving money you may be singing this song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCIp7eo4MvY&feature=related :hurray: But then agin I can allways be wrong. [ Dont you love it] :cheers:
 
i am 52 years old. SBT is a great company. i know a guy who has never had a problem with an SBT motor he has sold and installed. BUT...read their core charges if the part is no good. and his cyl-by his description-is no good. they charge MORE for the core than they charge for the rebuild.
 
i am 52 years old. SBT is a great company. i know a guy who has never had a problem with an SBT motor he has sold and installed. BUT...read their core charges if the part is no good. and his cyl-by his description-is no good. they charge MORE for the core than they charge for the rebuild.
:agree: $ 425.00 for 1 core cylinder head does seem like a lot. I would think you could find a bad ski with one good cylinder for close that price and have parts left over.
 
Dereck, Thanks for the heads up and advice. I ended up getting a top end kit from SBT and buying used cylinders. All back together now. Even rebuilt the carbs while I was waiting for parts to come in. Ran really strong then pressure regulator assy went bad. Now just waiting on more parts to come. Thanks for all the advice everyone
 
LOL, thats what I should be calling this one. All I want is one good day of riding with out problems am I asking for to much????
 
Old School..........

No Robin, my intentions were for derek to not generalize his experience. People reading his post may take that the wrong way, which can give SBT a bad reputation.

I've always called them to tell them what I had, so to get an estimate as to what my charges were going to be.

If you read the services with SBT, it does state that if your core is no good or requires it to be welded because a cylinder came out of the casing, there will be an extra charge outside the core charge..........that's black and white.

This is a free country and a free forum, say what you want. But before you slander a company or a person in the forum, please make sure you have definitive proof that this person, business has done to all, what your accusing it of doing.

There are so many variables in working with almost any company. They always give you the good prices, then tack on the extras for any small type problem, .......that's business. Someone has to eat that charge.

BUt SBT does not hide this fact. It is in writing and if you calll them, like I suggest eveyone do before placing an order, you can get an idea of what your charges are going to be, before you buy it.

I also agree with the ebay idea...........if you can find a better one to use as a core, it's best you do that. You'll avoid the expensive charges that SBT will take on to your final price...............:cheers:
 
i am not slandering SBT. i am only pointing out to people who say they are gonna buy from them the extra charges that they no doubt didn't look into. i only say anything when somebody describes his destroyed parts and then says he is going to send it to SBT for a core. they keep their prices and quality good by making sure they get good cores back. they even go as far as telling people how to buy core motors to send them. BUT, if you send your non-rebuildable stuff to them, they are gonna charge you-a lot. i think the total core charge for a 720 motor is around $2000, if you bought with no core, or every part non-repairable.
 
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