Hey, so I am new to this site as well as new to the sea doo world. I have recently just redone a 98 xp lmtd,( just getting the key reprogramed and final prestart thumbs up at the shop) , hope all goes well. Rented a couple sea doos last summer and new i had to get into one of my own. fingers crossed. Also , I am looking at getting into a 2012 wake 210 super charged. Would be my first jet boat or jet anything since the ski hasnt been ran yet. I have had a regular style stern drive boat before and I guess I was just wondering if there is any real major advantages or disatvantages to a jet boat or this boat in particular? Any body have any experience good or bad with the new 210's ? I enjoy reading all comments so feel free to jump in.
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cycleguy88
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if you're going to get it to wakeboard, then i'd buy a used Malibu or Master Craft. The 210 Wake is great, but for $50k you can get a better boat with a more powerful motor.
I'm gonna get a lot of flak about this but personally, I feel for towing, water skiing and wake boarding you're better off with a prop. boat. Reasons, more efficient power means less fuel, less maintenance (uses a standard marine/automobile engine), no hassles with sucking up the rope (chopping it up yes).
Just my opinion, I've owned both. O.K. I'm ready to take my licks.
Lou
Just my opinion, I've owned both. O.K. I'm ready to take my licks.
Lou
Haha, thats cool, was actually thinking of malibu to be honest , havent drove either of the two, jet vs vdrive boats to compair. I am not a pro wake boarder by any means but do enjoy it . Also has any one tried(I am sure someone has) but can you surf behind a wake 210? maybe a dumb question after the last comment.
cycleguy88
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I've seen the wake from a 210 and it's not enough to surf on
Hmmm, thats kinda what i thought. Just dont wanna spend the extra big bucks to get into a dedcated wake boat. And to get into one for the same price you need to go back 6 years or so and not really looking fro the yesteryear tech, style, etc, just to get a big wake. Other than not being a dedicated wake boat , is there any other draw backs to the 210?
davo
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I would be more inclined to look at why you might want the jet boat.
-shallow draft, do you boat with shallow water, shoals, shallow bays, sand banks etc as opposed to deep lakes.
-tight turning- adrenaline boating.
-style-for the girls
-no prop- for the kids, safety etc
If you don't need these features then there's prob better options. Then it comes down to price, or used models. All boats shine in their own arena. Only you will know what you need, salesmen will claim their boat will outperform all others all the time, but that is simply not true.
Wake surfing is a function of boat displacement, more weight, bigger waves/wake, more fuel needed no matter what boat you have. For a lake, dedicated tow sports boat, go a tig'e or similar, but it will cost you! Be aware the super twin doos eat the gas, the sweet spot for eco is thin but do-able. Do you need competition size wake, is it worth the loss of return. The thing I like with these boats is their simplicity. Easy to look after.
good luck
-shallow draft, do you boat with shallow water, shoals, shallow bays, sand banks etc as opposed to deep lakes.
-tight turning- adrenaline boating.
-style-for the girls
-no prop- for the kids, safety etc
If you don't need these features then there's prob better options. Then it comes down to price, or used models. All boats shine in their own arena. Only you will know what you need, salesmen will claim their boat will outperform all others all the time, but that is simply not true.
Wake surfing is a function of boat displacement, more weight, bigger waves/wake, more fuel needed no matter what boat you have. For a lake, dedicated tow sports boat, go a tig'e or similar, but it will cost you! Be aware the super twin doos eat the gas, the sweet spot for eco is thin but do-able. Do you need competition size wake, is it worth the loss of return. The thing I like with these boats is their simplicity. Easy to look after.
good luck
Am just looking for a fun boat that can cruz around, have space for more then 5-6, blast around time to time, and have a fun wake session, and not get into 70- 80 k for it. The type of towing it will be doing is for a couple lake bums who aint getting any younger and are not looking to go pro, but still want to have fun. Not going on long distance tours, lake is only 3 k long and thats being generous. Was mostly the maneuverablity of the jet boat that atracted me, for the blasting around bit. And what your idea of "sucking the fuel"? Typical day would be a couple blasts up ans down the lake 3 guys with about 6-8 runs each before getting winded and 3 girls on board , who may try a couple pulls. and the rest is sun soaking. Thats why i was looking at the sea doo, seems to have plenty of space without getting into tow boat class (price) and still able to hold its own.
davo
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Sensational, that's better info to gauge. I'd go with a 210/230 wake. Girls will love the observer lounge & if going the 230 able to escape the guys & chat up the front in the sun. For lounging the 230 is wider & roomier. Don't underestimate the practicality of tower racks for boards. It opens the on room space up not bumping into boards & looks cool. The seadoos will be quite economical for you uses, the twins can come unstuck on long cruises as they will only get 1km/lt, similar to a pocket cruiser. The fact they plane quicker than most boats though will see them tow more efficiently though. With six on board the wake will be fine for most people performing jumps & rotations. If you want to do 720s etc go for a pro boat which you have indicated is not the case. When I do the sort of day you indicated I'll use 20-30 lts. ie approx half hour of flogging it, towing for an hour rest of the day relaxing, 30% more for twins generally. Not too bad. The only thing I wish I had was more room occasionally. Normally it takes a bit of time on the boat before you realise this.
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Thanks , yeah, seems like it should suit my needs quit comfortably . Fit and finish is nice on them and are an all round pretty cool boat. And yes, the transat seating on the 210 is a very nice option and in fact what swayed me towards it over the 230. Sit out back more then up front so made more sense . Also, the storage out back under the swim platform , does anyone load that up with weight for wake shape / size or is it more useful as a storage compartment ?
seadooguynj
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If you need a bigger wake just find some fat people and sit there ass up front with a few buckets of KFC and then dump them out at the dock when your done. Don't worry, they won't talk, the KFC will keep'em busy :thumbsup:
Ok, so , pretty much sold on a new 210. Next question, the factory stereo? Do they come with speakers that are just there to fill the wholes till you get proper once ? Or are they quite capable ? How loud is capable you say. Well, can they sound good above the wind and motor noise while cruzing or towing? And, can the tower speakers throw enough for the rider out back to enjoy? Or are they just gonna tear the selfs up trying to keep up? Pretty much just seeing if I should hit the stereo shop before taking it home. Also am already fully ready for adding a sub and amp , but will that be enough to complete it, or are the speakers I need of a change? Thanks for all the input , this site is awesome !
cycleguy88
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I have been on a 210 wake, and the tower speakers are not too bad but the in boat speakers suck. You'll need an amp and new speakers/sub for the interior at minimum.
seadooguynj
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Any of the factor stuff, in my opinion, is just "okay." If you want a good sound, especially at high volumes, you are probably looking at getting a few upgraded speakers. I upgraded just the speakers to a high end marine model, I'll get the specs if you want them, and kept the factory head unit. Just the speaker change made a big difference and was a sorta low cost, close to 300 if I recall and I ordered from Crutchfield. I also installed a Sirius Antenna on the rear, its a flush mount, and snaked the wire up next to the head unit. I bought a mount for the unit I use in my truck and just pop that in the mount, plug it in to the AUX adaptor and I'm good to go all day and listen to whatever I want, even those upstanding girls on Playboy... :thumbsup:
K, quick question , hope not one I get laughed at for asking, but, with a closed loop cooling system , that does not draw from the lake for cooling, can you start and run these new boats out of water, and for how long ( safely) or do they still need to be in water ? Seems it should be safe but I don't know .
Don't worry, I will be getting fully edumacated on my boat before I bring it home, was just curious .
Don't worry, I will be getting fully edumacated on my boat before I bring it home, was just curious .
seadooguynj
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You will want to check the manual on this as there are specific procedures for running out of water. It is important to know when to turn on an exterior water supply and when not to as if you do it at the wrong time you can force water into the engine and then you are screwed. Check your manual, it should have a section that answers this question. The short answer to what you asked is yes, you can run on the trailer, but there is a time limit and specific sequence to follow.
I'm not a 4-tek guy but I do know what a closed loop cooling system is. It's a cooling system similar to your cars cooling system instead of using a radiator as a heat exchanger it uses lake water.
Lou
cycleguy88
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there is a radiator with antifreeze in it. You can run it out of water just like any other boat, but it's not a good idea to do it for long.
Well, picked up my wake 210, and wow, definatly a nice boat, fit and finish could be a LITTLE better, ie, tarp ripped off on the way home , pulled the buttons right out of the fabric , and also storage door latch under passenger side dash ( down by the floor) don't line up right, door swings open. But all in all pretty nice
cycleguy88
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well, any pics????
cycleguy88
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Very nice!
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