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96 GSX VTS (trim) questions/help

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knee-dragger777

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OK,

I have a question about this expensive fragile item. Does the engine need to be running for it to function?

My ski is on the trailer, and I have mine disassembled (because it doesn't work), I have checked my electric motor (directly to a 12 volt) and it works. My 7.5 amp fuse is not blown. I have a full charge on the battery. I have two "working, used" trim modules, and I hear a "click' with them, but nothing else when pressing the button.

My next plan is to delve into the electrics in the manual.
Am I missing something simple?
 
the engine does not have to be running, but the boats system needs to be powered up, just plug the lanyard on , or with lanyard of , push the start/stop button, this powers up the gauges and the trim should work
the gauges only stay powered for about 30 seconds
if the fuse is good, them grab the manual and perform the check to verifiy that the trim switches are proper and also that the module has the proper power and grounds going to it.
good luck '
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Same Problem

I have the same problem with my 1998 GSX Limited. The trim won't move, but when I press the button I hear a click. I was told by a friend that I have a bad relay switch. However, I can not find a relay switch on the schematics. I'm going to have a guy look at it sometime next week. Did you ever find out what it was?
 
Switches...?

Your operation features, the relay switch, the limiter switch ... is in part #11. When you get a click, a lot of time that is because the VTS motor has gone to it's furthest travel and is locked against the limit switch.

To try and explain a little, ... When you push the down button for instance. The VTS motor starts to spin it's screw, which is geared to the VTS allowing it to travel downward. Well, it can only go so far till it reaches the end of it's travel. If there was no safety, it would screw completely off the motor. So, there is a limit switch.

The limit switch is set that when your VTS is at the end of it's travel, it will hit the lever on this switch will will shut the power off the control button in the direction you are traveling. But, allow you to travel in the opposite direction.

You'll need to open that VTS module and look at your wiring. You might go as far as remove the motor. There are two wires on it, that willl allow you to hook it direct to 12 volts. It doesn't matter the wires to which terminal posts because your electronics swap polarity to make it run it either or....

So, start at that box. Check the limit switch.:cheers:
 
The VTS module is a very common failure most commonly caused by water entering the cracked rubber boot just above the pump. the boot should be changed every 2-3 years, some people change them every year as cheap $8insurance to protect a $400 VTS module/motor system.

The vts module is not really a user serviceable part, it is a pc board potted into a housing. There are a couple guys who are repairing these for certain defects but is not a simple fix and you really need to be a trained elec tech and a little lucky to get the board free from all the potted epoxy.
 
Well,

I thought I would provide some closure. On my dellimma, and maybe help to shed some additional light on this issue. I finially discovered my problem. My 7.5 Amp fuse was not good, even thought it looked that way under light, and a magnafying glass. It was shown only after applying an ohm meter

In the process, I will share something I discovered. I took an older model VTS trim( with three wiring harness, I THINK from a 95 model) mine is a 96 with the single six pin harness. They have the same color wires, so I decided it would be worth it to try and cut wiring harness, and "marry" them together. Well my motor would only work in the down position, so I don't reccommend doing that.

I will also share information from another site I found extremely helpful.
 
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ski-d00 said:
The VTS module is a very common failure most commonly caused by water entering the cracked rubber boot just above the pump. the boot should be changed every 2-3 years, some people change them every year as cheap $8insurance to protect a $400 VTS module/motor system.

The vts module is not really a user serviceable part, it is a pc board potted into a housing. There are a couple guys who are repairing these for certain defects but is not a simple fix and you really need to be a trained elec tech and a little lucky to get the board free from all the potted epoxy.
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Agreed, and the boot was not my issue, and I have replaced it, and found just plain Zip ties work well to replace the metal clamps on the rubber housing.
 
badjohnny said:
I have the same problem with my 1998 GSX Limited. The trim won't move, but when I press the button I hear a click. I was told by a friend that I have a bad relay switch. However, I can not find a relay switch on the schematics. I'm going to have a guy look at it sometime next week. Did you ever find out what it was?
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Badjohnny,

Mine did the same thing, try and replace your 7.5 amp fuse,and make sure your contacts in there are clean.

If you hear a click when you press the button, your VTS unit should be good, but I would bet the fuse is bad. You can find them at any Autozone, Pep boys, etc.
 
pyro said:
Maybe a little off topic, but why was the link above deleted by moderator?
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Pyro,

No problem. I did something against site rules. No biggee. :redface:
See Bills86E's response. That site tells you everything you need to know and more about the VTS system.

Here is the link

http://www.seadooforum.com/showthread.php?t=24745

Now, if someone discovers a way to fix that little board behind the potting, you might just make a mint.:cheers:
 
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