I've removed the motor, bench tested it in both directions, and it works. I have also manually turned the gear (in the ski) and watched the flange move up and down. Then I put the motor back in and reconnect the wires. Each time i hit the UP/DOWN botton, it clicks both at the motor and at the thumb switch, but nothing moves.
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95 XP VTS Motor just "clicks"
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Here is the test for the VTS It involves the switches too.
Always confirm that the fuse is in good condition. The7.5 amp fuse is in the MPEM module. Check the motor with a multimeter. Install the test probes on both the Blue/Orange and the Green/ Orange wires. Resistance should be close to 1.5 ohm.
If the motor seems to jam and it hasn’t reached the end of its stroke, the following test could be performed.
Remove the motor from the VTS. Manually rotate worm gear to verify the VTS for free operation. Connect it directly through a 15 amp fuse to a 12 volt battery. Connect wires one way, and then switch the polarity of the wires to see it work in the other direction. If it does run in both directions it could be the VTS module. If the VTS motor does not stop at the end of its stroke then the motor could be defective.
The VTS module receives it current from a 7.5 amp fuse in the MPEM.
Disconnect the Brown/Black wire and the Brown/White wire from the VTS module. Connect the probes of the multimeter to the 2 wires of the module. Push the start stop button to activate the MPEM timer,(gives power for 33 sec. without running engine). Push the VTS switch down position until motor stops. The ohm resistance reading should be 24 ohms+-1%. Push the switch button up until the motor stops and the resistance should be 167ohms+-1%. This test isn’t perfect but it should be close.
I hope these test work. If it still isnt working we'll do something else.
Karl
Always confirm that the fuse is in good condition. The7.5 amp fuse is in the MPEM module. Check the motor with a multimeter. Install the test probes on both the Blue/Orange and the Green/ Orange wires. Resistance should be close to 1.5 ohm.
If the motor seems to jam and it hasn’t reached the end of its stroke, the following test could be performed.
Remove the motor from the VTS. Manually rotate worm gear to verify the VTS for free operation. Connect it directly through a 15 amp fuse to a 12 volt battery. Connect wires one way, and then switch the polarity of the wires to see it work in the other direction. If it does run in both directions it could be the VTS module. If the VTS motor does not stop at the end of its stroke then the motor could be defective.
The VTS module receives it current from a 7.5 amp fuse in the MPEM.
Disconnect the Brown/Black wire and the Brown/White wire from the VTS module. Connect the probes of the multimeter to the 2 wires of the module. Push the start stop button to activate the MPEM timer,(gives power for 33 sec. without running engine). Push the VTS switch down position until motor stops. The ohm resistance reading should be 24 ohms+-1%. Push the switch button up until the motor stops and the resistance should be 167ohms+-1%. This test isn’t perfect but it should be close.
I hope these test work. If it still isnt working we'll do something else.
Karl
1. I couldn't find a 7.5 Amp fuse in the MPEM
2. Resistance on the motor thru my multimeter is the same as the resistance when i connect the two ends of the multimeter probes directly to each other.
3. When the motor is removed from the VTS case, and I hook it up to the battery, is will run, run, run and never stop, in either direction
4. When I am manually rotating the worm gear, is that the worm gear on the motor or the gear that is connected to the output jet flange? When I try to turn the gear on the motor itself, is doesn't turn by hand, however, it does turn with the battery connected to it.
2. Resistance on the motor thru my multimeter is the same as the resistance when i connect the two ends of the multimeter probes directly to each other.
3. When the motor is removed from the VTS case, and I hook it up to the battery, is will run, run, run and never stop, in either direction
4. When I am manually rotating the worm gear, is that the worm gear on the motor or the gear that is connected to the output jet flange? When I try to turn the gear on the motor itself, is doesn't turn by hand, however, it does turn with the battery connected to it.
bench tested with battery? did you try running it with the ski's wiring while not having it bolted in? it is probably the module. motor itself is pretty tough, and doesn't get much mileage. manually crank the trim so that it is about halfway between the middle and all the way down. good drivable setting. girlfriend's daughter always blows her vts by running it all the way up to jump waves. makes ski impossible to keep in water unless dead flat. then i hafta lean over the bars to hold the nose down.
Thanks. OK I have tried to run the motor up and down with it unbolted, while it is still connected to the boats wiring (not bench testing). It does the same thing, however, one interesting note: It clicks when I hit the UP arrow, but makes no sound when I push the DOWN arrow.
Also, I'm assuming by VTS MODULE you are referring to some electronic unit within the sealed electrical box? If you could help me ID it, that would be beneficial.
Also, I'm assuming by VTS MODULE you are referring to some electronic unit within the sealed electrical box? If you could help me ID it, that would be beneficial.
skirtchaser
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I just had the same problem with my 96 xp it clicks when you press up but nothing when you go down.I replaced it with a new vts box it was around 200 bucks.Water or moisture get inside those boxes and just wrecks em.From what I've read they have updated the vts boxes 3 times scince 95.
skirtchaser
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Oh ya the 7.5amp fuse is located in the rear electrical box.Good Luck
skirtchaser
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I am not sure about that wire?????I was refering to the vts box itself that is the problem 90% of the time.That or the motor.If your geting it to click that tell me the signal from the mod is getting to the box.
Try this http://www.sea-doo.net/techarticles/vts/index.html
Try this http://www.sea-doo.net/techarticles/vts/index.html
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skirtchaser
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The vts box houses the motor.entry for the water is from water splashing around inside the boat and be sure to check the vts boot.. thats another hot spot.Make sure there isn't any holes in that.boot is located at the rear of the ski where the rod connects to the pump nozle.
no. that is the mpem or ignition module. the vts module is the little black box mounted on top of the vts motor. take a look at ebay item number; 250247254563. it is the 2 and a half inch square box on top of the vts assy, behind the motor. i need one myself. mine glows and burned a hole in the potting compound on top of the module.
Detailed VTS Box removal question
Thanks for the help. I've discovered I have a torn rubber boot so I need to replace that and also peer into the VTS Module.
I've removed the 1-5/16" nut from the outside, and now I just need to remove the black VTS box from inside the hull. However, it appears that thing is in their pretty tight. Anyone have experience removing/reinstalling the VTS module? I have read thru the shop manual on this but it is pretty brief on getting this thing pulled out of the hole in the transome. I don't want to break anything.
Thanks for the help. I've discovered I have a torn rubber boot so I need to replace that and also peer into the VTS Module.
I've removed the 1-5/16" nut from the outside, and now I just need to remove the black VTS box from inside the hull. However, it appears that thing is in their pretty tight. Anyone have experience removing/reinstalling the VTS module? I have read thru the shop manual on this but it is pretty brief on getting this thing pulled out of the hole in the transome. I don't want to break anything.
skirtchaser
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If i remember correctly it's only that nut in the back and there is 2 6mm bolts screwed into the hull right in front of the vts box that holds an aluminum bracket thats it!
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