95 Sea Doo XP VTS help!!!

[jasonmoore77]

I just picked up a 95 sea doo xp and the vts doesn't work. I replaced a blown fuse in the electrical compartment and still nothing. When I press the up button on the vts control I can hear a click back by the vts motor that sounds kind of like a relay click but there is no movement and the down button doesn't make any noise at all. Does anyone have any ideas or is my motor shot...I'm taking it on vacation in two days so i would like to get it fixed as soon as possible.

I also only found two fuses in the ec and the owners manual made it sound like there would be two plus one for the vts.

Thanks for any help you guys can give me!!!

 

[kustomkarl]

Here is a list of things you can look over and see if you can solve the problem.
VTS test/ XP model

Always confirm that the fuse is in good condition. The 7.5 amp fuse is in the MPEM module. Check the motor with a multimeter. Install the test probes on both the Blue/Orange and the Green/ Orange wires. Resistance should be close to 1.5 ohm.
If the motor seems to jam and it hasn’t reached the end of its stroke, the following test could be performed.
Remove the motor from the VTS. Manually rotate worm gear to verify the VTS for free operation. Connect it directly through a 15 amp fuse to a 12 volt battery. Connect wires one way, and then switch the polarity of the wires to see it work in the other direction. If it does run in both directions it could be the VTS module. If the VTS motor does not stop at the end of its stroke then the motor could be defective.

The VTS module receives it current from a 7.5 amp fuse in the MPEM.
Disconnect the Brown/Black wire and the Brown/White wire from the VTS module. Connect the probes of the multimeter to the 2 wires of the module. Push the start stop button to activate the MPEM timer,(gives power for 33 sec. without running engine). Push the VTS switch down position until motor stops. The ohm resistance reading should be 24 ohms+-1%. Push the switch button up until the motor stops and the resistance should be 167ohms+-1%. This test isn’t perfect but it should be close.

I hope this helps.Do you have a seadoo shop manual? If not here’s an idea for you. You could join as a "premium member". As a premium member you can down load a authentic seadoo manual from the seadoo manual library. In the library is a variety of manuals for almost all years and models. You can view as many as you like on line as a PDF file, or download it and print it for your personal and private use. There are operator manuals and repair manuals for you to do your own repairs on your seadoo. The repair manuals have everything from troubleshooting, repair procedures to winterizing. It contains wire diagrams torque specs and pictures for disassemble and assemble instructions. In the spec sheets it tells everything needed to maintain oil changes, spark plug gaps, carburetor rebuilds and impeller wear ring tolerances. Click on the "Seadoo Manuals" link at the top of the page for more details. If you need any help or get in a jam, we are always here to answer your questions too. Premium members get priority when it comes to getting quick detailed answers.

Keep us posted on your progress.
Karl

 

[jasonmoore77]

I found the 7.5 fuse and it was blown I replaced it and I was able to get 12 volts out of the module when the switch was pressed in the up position. I also removed the motor and tested it with a 12 volt source and it runs without stopping as long as it has power. Then I connected the motor back to the module and just holding the motor in my hand it would run without stopping while the switched was pressed in the up position but still nothing in the down position. So I tried putting it all back together and now I'm getting no power out of the module at all for some reason. I tested all the connections and there is power up to the module but it's not making it through to the motor...So I'm assuming it has a bad module.

So where can I find a new or used module in Dayton Ohio before Tue....I think I'm going to be out of luck!!!


Thanks
Jason

 

[kustomkarl]

Jason, It does sound like the module is bad. I would check out like " www.sbtontheweb " to see if they have something they could send out for 2 day service ups. Give it a shot and let us know how you make out.

Karl

 

[jasonmoore77]

I just went out and lowered the trim with another battery by hooking it directly to the motor and just for the heck of it I reconnected the motor to the module and tried the vts button again and I was able to bring the trim back up but I'm still getting nothing when I press the button to the down position...so the up works and the down doesn't...Can just half of that module go bad or could it be the switch?

 

[jasonmoore77]

Well I bypassed the switch and the down still doesn't work so I'm afraid it's the module...Oh well thanks for all your help I'll call the guys from the web page you recommended on Mon.

Thanks!!!

 

[BobVal]

SeaDoo 1995 XP - VTS problem

Hello:

I am having problems with my VTS.

I disconnected the motor and connected to a battery using a 7.5 amp fuse and it works great both forward and backward.

Then I tried reconnecting the motor and I blow the 7.5 amp fuse.

Unhooked the motor and put in a new fuse and connect the power and the fuse blows again. In fact the fuse blows as soon as I hook up the battery.

Followed all the wires (up into the handle bars as well) looking for a wire that might be shorted out and can not find any.

All the wires look fine (really hard to tell without ripping of the protective casings that surround the bundles).

So at this point I am lost as to how to proceed, anyone have any ideas?

BobVal

 

[kustomkarl]

Here is a list of things you can look over and see if you can solve the problem.
VTS test/ XP model

Always confirm that the fuse is in good condition. The 7.5 amp fuse is in the MPEM module. Check the motor with a multimeter. Install the test probes on both the Blue/Orange and the Green/ Orange wires. Resistance should be close to 1.5 ohm.
If the motor seems to jam and it hasn’t reached the end of its stroke, the following test could be performed.
Remove the motor from the VTS. Manually rotate worm gear to verify the VTS for free operation. Connect it directly through a 15 amp fuse to a 12 volt battery. Connect wires one way, and then switch the polarity of the wires to see it work in the other direction. If it does run in both directions it could be the VTS module. If the VTS motor does not stop at the end of its stroke then the motor could be defective.

The VTS module receives it current from a 7.5 amp fuse in the MPEM.
Disconnect the Brown/Black wire and the Brown/White wire from the VTS module. Connect the probes of the multimeter to the 2 wires of the module. Push the start stop button to activate the MPEM timer,(gives power for 33 sec. without running engine). Push the VTS switch down position until motor stops. The ohm resistance reading should be 24 ohms+-1%. Push the switch button up until the motor stops and the resistance should be 167ohms+-1%. This test isn’t perfect but it should be close.

I hope this helps.Do you have a seadoo shop manual? If not here’s an idea for you. You could join as a "premium member". As a premium member you can down load a authentic seadoo manual from the seadoo manual library. In the library is a variety of manuals for almost all years and models. You can view as many as you like on line as a PDF file, or download it and print it for your personal and private use. There are operator manuals and repair manuals for you to do your own repairs on your seadoo. The repair manuals have everything from troubleshooting, repair procedures to winterizing. It contains wire diagrams torque specs and pictures for disassemble and assemble instructions. In the spec sheets it tells everything needed to maintain oil changes, spark plug gaps, carburetor rebuilds and impeller wear ring tolerances. Click on the "Seadoo Manuals" link at the top of the page for more details. If you need any help or get in a jam, we are always here to answer your questions too. Premium members get priority when it comes to getting quick detailed answers.

Keep us posted on your progress.
Karl

Welcome to the seadoo forum Bob Val. This is what you need to do to test your VTS. I posted this in this thread already.

Hope it helps you.
Karl

 

[BobVal]

VTS - I Read your first posting

Hello Karl:

I read you first posting in this area on how to test the VTS, I guess you did not read my posting well.

I put in a new fuse, connect the battery and fuse blows. I have tried this with and with out the VTS motor connected. It is hard for me to do the tests in your posting when as soon as I connect the battery the 7.5 amp fuse blows.

Have tried looking for a short and can not see any, was looking for a way to trouble shoot this. Need to get past the fuse blowing before I can move on with the tests in your posting

Yes I have a shop manual I purchased from someone on the web, did not know there was a "premium membership", nor do I see a way of joining it.

If it matters: Everything else works, I can use the jetski without the VTS but would like to have it working.

 

[kustomkarl]

Bob, sorry i misunderstood your post...If the 7.5 fuses keeps blowing it might be the VTS module is bad. I'll look a little deeper to see if I can find a way around the fuse...but I Believe that it indicates you need to replace the module.

Karl

 

[BobVal]

VTS Module Location

Hello:

Not to worry.

The shop book says that the VTS Module is locate in the front of bilge left side. There are no pictures of it.

Could you tell me what I am looking for?


BobVal