tdallmann81
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I just bought a 2016 GTR215 and have to wait until spring to get it out, just wondering if anyone here has one and what they like and dislike about it, thanks
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gti 130 wow
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That pwc is going to cost you a bundle to keep running do to a long term defect in the supercharger that requires it being repaired every 100 hours (not 200 like the sked says ) .
In 2017 they finally came out with a new sc design that's on its way to fixing this disgraceful defect. On the bright side , everything else including the engine it self is top notch. If you got a its to good to be true deal , then now you know.
Be sure to read about this sc on this site and others especially about the need for 100hr servicing because a full blown sc failing can destroy your engine.
tdallmann81
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Does the warranty cover the sc?
The SC is a "Normal Wear" part that does require being rebuilt every 2 years and or 100 hours. Most warranties don't cover normal wear items. That said, if you can prove it was rebuilt within the normal specs, I have seen warranties pick up the repair cost in the event of a premature failure.
I do not agree with GTI 130 Wow statement as far as it costing you a fortune. Is it cheap, no, but it is not a fortune either. It will cost on average $430 each time it is rebuilt.
The newer maintenance free SCs have their issues as well. The early builds have defective wheels that allows the fins to break off and cause total failure, BRP is replacing these at no charge. My point is, mechanical parts are prone to maintenance and or repair. It is just a fact of metal on metal wear.
The 4-Tec engine is rock solid, you can easily get into the many hundreds of hours before any work is required other than routine oil changes.
I do not agree with GTI 130 Wow statement as far as it costing you a fortune. Is it cheap, no, but it is not a fortune either. It will cost on average $430 each time it is rebuilt.
The newer maintenance free SCs have their issues as well. The early builds have defective wheels that allows the fins to break off and cause total failure, BRP is replacing these at no charge. My point is, mechanical parts are prone to maintenance and or repair. It is just a fact of metal on metal wear.
The 4-Tec engine is rock solid, you can easily get into the many hundreds of hours before any work is required other than routine oil changes.
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tdallmann81
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Ok thanks for the information, a few hundred dollars every couple years is not bad
I own a GTX and an RXT-X. Both are great skis. I ALWAYS ride the RXT for the fun factor. Can't help myself.
gti 130 wow
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It's like putting lipstick on a pig . With each oil change you have to overhaul the sc . BRP already lost one court judgement at a earlier date on a previous sc and had to reclassify this so called maintenance as a repair so be sure to keep your records of repair etc. In the mean time their are some skilled sc rebuild companies like the one on this site which will overhaul it right which is critical .
Oil changes are every 50 hours. Most of us do it once at the end of the season regardless of the hours. Based on your math that would mean the SC would be rebuilt 4 times in 2 years based on 50 hours a year.
That is not the realistic case. The SC is every 100 hours which most don't get within a two year time frame.
Yes, BRP had their issues with the Ceramic washers. That is solved. Are they perfect, no. But they make it an entirely different Ski as compared to non-SC engines.
gti 130 wow
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I forgot the sc models have a 50 hr interval compared to the na engine which is 100 no doubt due to the dilution of the oil do to blow buy that at times can over burden even the stock liquid/vapor separator next to the tops valve . Head in my hands.
Again, please do not feed the GTI 130 wow troll.....
He spouts all sorts of shit about SC skis that is not true. We have a large group that rides together, and there is no difference in reliability or fuel economy during normal cruising. The only difference is that when you stab the throttle on the SC skis, it is a helluva lot more fun than the N/A skis.
ps, the only people in our large group that ride the NA skis are the girls and elderly. Which one is GTI 130 wow, LOL?
He spouts all sorts of shit about SC skis that is not true. We have a large group that rides together, and there is no difference in reliability or fuel economy during normal cruising. The only difference is that when you stab the throttle on the SC skis, it is a helluva lot more fun than the N/A skis.
ps, the only people in our large group that ride the NA skis are the girls and elderly. Which one is GTI 130 wow, LOL?
I agree there are people that will buy a new supercharged jet ski mod it with a impeller, fizzle intercooler, new supercharger impeller, bigger fuel injectors, and then hook it up to a maptuner x. Turn it into a 90 mph jet ski . Those people do not care about warranties we do it to make it faster and quicker . It's the thrill and you only live once
sampuppy1
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That sounds like a whole hell of a lot of fun. But I've got an 03 gtx with a few hours of it.
gti 130 wow
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Speed is a relative thing . If your out in a bay it's like being in a jet at 30,000 feet . You see the states go by but it really does not feel fast . Go find yourself a winding creek say 150 ' wide like I drive and even 55 feels to fast. I usually go up these creeks in the 40 to 50 mph range in the sport mode and believe me it's more of a thrill then going 100 mph in a bay . I don't know what I would do with a 70mph machine probably get wrapped around a tree .
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Do a search and you find that most people who repair the pwc's say their was nothing changed on the sc that warranted increasing the interval to 200 hrs from 100 hrs and think that the increase was for marking reasons cuz people don't like to have to repair their sc every 100 hrs . So if your engine ends up eating parts of your sc before 200 hrs you have been warned . So few made it to 200 hrs before the end of the 1 year warranty , I guess it was a safe bet except thanks to the Internet , its started to hit them in the wallet .
You know their is a saying that theirs no replacement for displacement and Sea Doo may be trying to squeeze to much power out of a 1.5l engine with just 3 cyl and its time for a 1.8l 4 cyl to come along like everyone else .
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Agreed. Parts and part numbers are identical. Once you have the updated shaft from 09 and newer. This was a RP move.
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Another thing I noticed from boat test . Com is that the Yamaha 1.8l , 4cyl , HO NA engine has a top speed and performance on par with the GTR 215 but at a peak fuel consumption of about 13.5 gal/ hr vs 16.5 gal/ hr which is a huge difference that comes from the GTR's heavier hull and the less efficient small engine/ supercharged , 3cyl combo . Of coarse I like the appearance of the GTR much more and a somewhat heavier fiberglass hull provides a much better ride I would think compared to the VXR 1.8l Ho so I ponder as to buy next .
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I suggest you stick to a 130 & keep tossing off
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