2010 challenger 180

[Mazda2010]

Hi i need some advice from all of you seadoo expert here. Im looking to buy a new boat to replace my 1998 speedster and its a 2010 Challenger 180 with 215 hp supercharged warranty 4 yr. It come with a Seadoo Trailer and i can have it for 21500$ plus txs do you think guys its a good deal they normally go for 27195 but dont forget its a 2010 leftover.


Thanks


Hope to get back on the water for this week end LOL

 

[davo]

not sure about the price, do you really want the 215hp. The engine will be pushing hard to get a boat load going. The 255hp is the min power I'd want, unless its just a couple in the boat most of the time.

 

[Mazda2010]

Thanks davo im alson debating rebuilt my speedster as a winter project im really mix up right now

 

[thor7000]

agreed....wouldn't get a 180 unless it had the 255HP!! If you bought in the States you could get a brand new 180 with the 255HP for cheaper but you would loose all warranty!!

 

[Lightningtruck]

I agree with the others that suggest the 255hp version. I have an '05 C180 with the 215hp version and it is barely adequate. Ok for me, as I'm not a true boating hotdog like some people.

 

[WOOSAB]

i'm 6'5 280 pounds and i have the 215. The boat has no problem pulling me on a tube. I demo the 255 and the 215 and there was a little difference in the top end and not much difference in the take off less then a boat length. I have never had more then 3 adults and 3 kids in the boat and i never felt under powered. The boat with a full tank me my wife and kids boat has always been able to run in the low to mid 40's. Boat is made for 8 and you will never be able to fit 8 in the boat.. If you are looking to fill the boat you are better to move up to the 210 model..

 

[timhood]

I've got the '08, which has the 215HP motor. If I was buying a newer one, I'd try to get the 255HP, just because I could. But that wouldn't be a deal-breaker for me if there was a definite price break that made the 215 worthwhile. I typically run 2 adults, 2 teens and one pre-teen in the boat and the boat does fine, goes as fast (probably faster) than the rest of the family wants and has more than enough power to pull the three kids in a three-man tube. You don't go that fast pulling a tube, skier or boarder (15-20mph tops), so the extra power would just be for blasting on the water with everyone on board.

I've had 4 adults, two teens and one pre-teen in the boat, probably near max capacity. Yeah, it didn't take off like a Corvette, but again, I got going fast enough for what people wanted/enjoyed.

In reality, if you're a real speed-demon, the 255 probably wouldn't satisfy you enough, and you'd want to look at another model with a pair of 215's, 255's or 260's.

Check the book value on the difference between a 215 and 255 and try to get a deal that's even better on the 215. Use words like, "nobody really wants the 215s, so it will be harder to sell" and stuff like that.

 

[James.Moon]

It sounds like a fair price in Canada. I bought my 2009 180SE in early 2010 for $30,000 although it had the 255HP and tower ($3k MSRP).

I am happy with the 255HP, however I have no experience with the 215. The 255 top end 50mph ish is usually faster than you want or can stand unless lake is mirror flat. The extra power is nice but will probably cost you another $4000 - 6000.

 

[RFoster130]

I really think with what you are use to in the 98, the 180 will be a disappointment. I tried one out and it was too slow. Im holding out till i can buy a 20 ft speedster.

 

[Mazda2010]

Well ive finnaly went with that one i was looking at other with more horsepower but ive got this one brand new 2010 for 20000$ so instead of paying 27000$ for a new 2011 i thing i got a good deal

 

[WOOSAB]

I know this is the seadoo forum but in all honesty. I came from a Yamaha jet boat to a Sea Doo jet boat and i'm planning on trading my 2010 model in for a yamaha jet boat this february at the dallas boat show. The yamaha boats are of better quality and they definatly hold there value better. I had a yamaha ls2001 with 1 blown motor and in 2010 i was still able to trade it in and get $7,500 for it. The boat had hundreds of hours i'm sure and was 9 years old. I bought the seadoo brand new in July of 2010 for a little over 25,000 and some change. Well i was looking to upgrade this february and the boat had 18 hours on it. The most i could get from any dealer was 14.5k. I spoke to atleast 8 different dealers. The sea doo's just dont hold there value the same and they are more expensive with the 100 super charger rebuild. The price tag is higher on sizes meaning 20-22 footers 23-24footers ect. They also cost more in gas they take the higher octane. I think sea doo makes a good boat i just think yamaha makes a better boat. It's a reason why yamaha boat are the number 1 selling boat for boats 20-25foot. Just food for thought..I don't work for a boat company or represent anyone i'm just giving my 2 cents as a customer that has experience with both brands...

i would check out yamahajetboaters.com i'm a active member of both sites and you can get great information from both..

 

[timhood]

I think you could get a much better price selling your boat privately. Those dealers are looking to make some nice coin off your trade-in. If I hadn't bought my boat last year, I would easily have offered you more than that. 18 hours is basically brand new.

 

[Momma Doo]

I just purchased a 2011 180 Challenger SE with the 255 a few weekends ago. As is the case with all boat owners - no owner ever complains that their boat is too fast! I have been a Yamaha fan for many years. I owned a 20' Scout CC with a 150 4 stroke Yammy and a smaller 18' Key West with a 90 Yammy. Both nice motors, but...

Several years ago, BRP had some major issues with the larger offshore engines. BRP made the right investment and brought over several Leer and Bullet Train engineers to correct these engine problems and decided to keep these engineers on staff to work on their water jet vehicles, as well. Today, BRP makes an outboard motor that runs like a sewing machine and rarely needs service. And if you have followed BRP or Sea Doo for +10 years, you will know that their water jet products have improved 100 times over.

My dealer purchased 48 180 Challenger's for the 2011 season. He sold all but 3 in just a few months. The 180 is an ideal family boat that is easy to manage and fits perfectly into a 21' garage. Yamaha makes no such thing. In addition, the 4 Stroke Rotex is heads and shoulders above any motor that Yamaha can put out there - that is why many Doo's have 1 motor for propulsion instead of the 2 that Yamaha puts in their boats. 2 motors mean twice the gas consumption and twice the invoice at each service. And considering that the Doo's offer closed loop cooling - well that makes all of the difference for those of us running our boats in salt water. Yamaha motors are water cooled. Good for lakes, not so good for salt water use and maintenance.

When you are ready for a new boat, simply pay the $35 for a Boat Trader ad on the Web and list your 180. If you list it between May and July, it will sell the first week it is listed, as long as you have kept up with the general maintenance. You should be able to get enough $$$ from the sale to pay off the bank and to put some $$$ down on your next boat. An extra 30 minutes of TLC on your current boat every now and then will really pay off in resale value. Plus, who can refuse a boat that has a 4 stroke motor, goes 50MPH, seats 6 comfortably and fits in their garage? Mazda2010 - you made a great buying decision and the 255 motor was an even better idea! Enjoy!