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2006 vs 2008
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Eclipse1701d
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From what I have read on this forum, there are improvements to the 08 internal engine components that are well worth it over the 06. I would go with the 08.
xintersecty
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Just remember boats are year behind on engines. A 2006 has a 2005 engine and the 2008 boat will have a 2007 engine.
04 to 06 had hollow core sodium filled exhaust valves. I would not buy this engine unless I was willing to spend the money to replace the valves. The issue is, the stems fail and the lower valve section fall into the motor and cause serious damage.
As noted above, boats are normally a year behind. So,, with a boat I would not buy anything older than a 2007.
Also, the Super Charged (SC) engines had ceramic washer from 2004 to 2007. In 08 they went to metal washers. That said, I have seen a few 08 with ceramic washers, (I assume it was old stock SC's). It is fine to buy one with ceramic washer, just KNOW that you need to replace them NOW, not next season. A full rebuild through this site is $495 with returned shipping e last time I looked.
Not trying to scare you, just inform you.
I own two skis that have the 4-tec engines and LOVE them. I will always own a SC'd ski. I love the performance.
As noted above, boats are normally a year behind. So,, with a boat I would not buy anything older than a 2007.
Also, the Super Charged (SC) engines had ceramic washer from 2004 to 2007. In 08 they went to metal washers. That said, I have seen a few 08 with ceramic washers, (I assume it was old stock SC's). It is fine to buy one with ceramic washer, just KNOW that you need to replace them NOW, not next season. A full rebuild through this site is $495 with returned shipping e last time I looked.
Not trying to scare you, just inform you.
I own two skis that have the 4-tec engines and LOVE them. I will always own a SC'd ski. I love the performance.
I am anal and do LOVE to know the hours... But sadly, that equates to very little info unless you have owned it for much of its life.
It can have 50 hours on it which is low, but if it was treated poorly, no oil changes, SC washers not changes, wrong oil used, not winterized as it should be, ect ect...
But,,, like you, I do like to see/know the hours.
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It can have 50 hours on it which is low, but if it was treated poorly, no oil changes, SC washers not changes, wrong oil used, not winterized as it should be, ect ect...
But,,, like you, I do like to see/know the hours.
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MPower
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Why 2009 or newer?
I would at minimum get an 07. That year saw the new digital gauges and better valvetrain. It would still have ceramic washers though, but rebuilding a charger is the first thing anybody buying a used 4TEC SC should do, no matter what the previous owner tells you about its history.
A little known fact is that there was a version 1 and version 2 2008 model. HIN 13002 and up is version 2. Has newer style exhaust, air intake, electrical system and metal washers.
Carboncow
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UBIQUITY,
Looking at a 2008 and he gave me the HIN, US-CEC19234D808. Can you confirm that the number in question from your post is the 19234 which is the non grenading superchargers?
How did you come by this "little known fact"?
thanks for your time/help!
180 HIN is irrelevant to the speedsters version 1 and 2. The speedster hin you provide is definately a version 2. Go to the oem parts look up and you will see the hin denotation of version 1 and 2 along. You can compare the part number changes.
Keep in mind that washers are not the only supercharger concern. The supercharger spins 45000 rpm+- and the phenolic bearing retainers tend to become brittle with time as well as heat and rpm cycling. If your metal washer supercharger has more than 100 hrs AND OR more than 2 years old, do yourself a huge favor and rebuild it with the latest seadoo oem kit.
Carboncow
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Oh wow...and thanks. I'm looking at a 2008 with only 35 hours on it so I figured I was safe till 100hrs but didn't know there was a two year period of recommended interval too. I'm handy and I see the rebuilds online but people are regularly replacing them every two season!?! Wow!
Carboncow
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Crazy low but the 2nd owner used it 3 times in two boating seasons. It looks showroom new...not a scratch. There is also a 2007 with 55 hrs and another with 85 hours all in my area code. I also have a 1989 340 Sea Ray Sundancer with only 385 OEM hours (14 hours per year).
Not long boating seasons and 2nd boats for many of us.
Either way the supercharger is getting built ASAP.
When you live on Lake Erie you MIGHT get 4 months you can use any water toy. I lived there for over 40 years. Owned my first two skis (Polaris) for 11 years and sold them with 110 hours on them..
Thats Ohio for you...
Thats Ohio for you...
rcguy
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I bought my boat in December of 2013 (2008 Challenger 180) and it had only 44 engine hours on the meter. It was 5/6 years old and in excellent condition. Low hours on these boats are not unusual even in Florida. In the past two seasons I put a total of 52 hours on the boat.
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JPass
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Wow, that's some low hours. We averaged about 100 hours per season in our previous boat. Feel pretty confident we'll come close to that this season with our current 210. Purchased it at the end of August with 113 hours on each motor.We put 25 hours on it in the first 3 months of ownership.
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