2002 GTX 4-stroke Coolant Overflow
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I would drain and flush the system. The proceedure is a bit detailed.
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I would start with what Karl suggested.
Quick question, is the water you are running in "brown" and is the liquid in the coolant bottle uniform, or does it act like there is both water and oil together (the oil will float on top just like when making pancakes).
Depending what it is and where it came from it can be completely different problems.
Quick question, is the water you are running in "brown" and is the liquid in the coolant bottle uniform, or does it act like there is both water and oil together (the oil will float on top just like when making pancakes).
Depending what it is and where it came from it can be completely different problems.
The problem could be a leak in the engine also. What is the engine oil look like? If it looks milky you might have a mixture going on. From engine oil to coolant. If so it's tear down time to find it.
Karl
Karl
That brown is the engine oil...check it. It doesn't sound too good.
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I have a feeling that something else is going on. I thought at first the antifreeze was just contaiminated... or never changed at the 100 hour check, but now I get the feeling something is leaking oil into the cooling fluid. When you get a chance check the engine oil for it's level and if it looks contaminated with coolant. It will be easy to go from there if the oil is clean and up to the mark.
Karl
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The oil shouldn't be almost empty...I bet it is going into the coolant. The oil just doesn't disappear.
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Chris_cox
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we would be better able to help if you had your vessel info in your profile
based on your thread title, im assuming you have basically the same craft i do
the oil and coolant mixing could be caused by a couple things:
blown headgasket - blown between coolant passage and oil galley
cracked block - normally occuring on the cylinder wall between the cylinder and water passage
both of those can be caused from overheating, i dont know much about watercraft yet. but it makes sense to me that its possible to over heat if you inhale seaweed into the jet, any exxcess load (impeller trying to chew the seaweed) could cause engine temps to skyrocket very quickly
edit: how does the ski run upto where it overheats? you can have a blown headgasket and the engine still run decently
based on your thread title, im assuming you have basically the same craft i do
the oil and coolant mixing could be caused by a couple things:
blown headgasket - blown between coolant passage and oil galley
cracked block - normally occuring on the cylinder wall between the cylinder and water passage
both of those can be caused from overheating, i dont know much about watercraft yet. but it makes sense to me that its possible to over heat if you inhale seaweed into the jet, any exxcess load (impeller trying to chew the seaweed) could cause engine temps to skyrocket very quickly
edit: how does the ski run upto where it overheats? you can have a blown headgasket and the engine still run decently
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Chris_cox
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well a head gasket can blow in a few places
gasket to exterior of motor, coolant passage to oil passage, or combustion chamber to coolant passage
if your oil is turning into what we in the auto repair bizz call a 'milkshake' id be fairly certain it was a coolant passage to oil passage blow, only way to test is to check the fluids, and if they look literally like a milkshake then its prolly blown
to check for a combustion to coolant blow, you need to put a radiator pressure tester on the overflow bottle, and start the ski, watch the pressure as you bring the RPMs up, if the pressure in the cooling system rises as the RPMs rise, its blown here
but the only way to know for certain is to it teardown, youll need to have the block and head checked for cracks, head should be resurfaced before reassembling
gasket to exterior of motor, coolant passage to oil passage, or combustion chamber to coolant passage
if your oil is turning into what we in the auto repair bizz call a 'milkshake' id be fairly certain it was a coolant passage to oil passage blow, only way to test is to check the fluids, and if they look literally like a milkshake then its prolly blown
to check for a combustion to coolant blow, you need to put a radiator pressure tester on the overflow bottle, and start the ski, watch the pressure as you bring the RPMs up, if the pressure in the cooling system rises as the RPMs rise, its blown here
but the only way to know for certain is to it teardown, youll need to have the block and head checked for cracks, head should be resurfaced before reassembling
Chris_cox
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id be better able to help if you could post pictures of the fluids
(mainly cuz i just did 3 different head gaskets on 3 different cars so i know what im looking for lol)
also pull out the plugs and take pics of the tip/electrodes if you could (please label which cylinder they are out of (the cylinders are numbered from bow to stern 3 2 1)
also: a compression test could also reveal the issue
(mainly cuz i just did 3 different head gaskets on 3 different cars so i know what im looking for lol)
also pull out the plugs and take pics of the tip/electrodes if you could (please label which cylinder they are out of (the cylinders are numbered from bow to stern 3 2 1)
also: a compression test could also reveal the issue
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