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1997 Challenger blows 5amp fuse as soon as key hits post

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Hi all, I'm having a hell of a time with an issue I can't figure out. Last Friday I was on the lake running for a short period when she died on me. After not being able to figure out what happened and getting towed back I began troubleshooting. I found the 5 amp fuse that either runs the mpem or the mpem supply was blown and had a 7.5 amp fuse in its place. I replaced the fuse and as soon as the key hits the post, it starts to beep and blows the fuse. I've tried a bigger fuse, it's all I had, and got two beeps, but it too blew.

I've tried to run a diagnostic with the key off the post and a new fuse in. As soon as I hit the start button on one engine, pop.

I've also unplugged all the wires off the rectifier and received the same result as well as removed the fuse for the instrument panel thinking there might be a short there and that didn't work.

I'm leaning towards the mpem, but everything else screams dead short. I've ran a multimeter to all the wires running into the side of the box and didn't find any short as well. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

* * * *UPDATE* * * *

Well in an odd twist of fate, I found what was popping the fuse. I bought this boat last week. I called the previous owner and learned that he had located a ground wire lying on the bottom of the engine bay and connected it to the ground post on the battery, thinking that it needed to be connected. I disconnected that line, which ran to the rear of the port side engine, replaced the fuse and put the key on the post and VOILA! The fuse didn't blow. After a brief happy dance, I connected the garden hose and tried to fire the engines up. Initially I got the smell of gas but no start. Now when I look at the lines, they're empty and there's no spark.

In my earliest attempts, while stranded on the water, I learned that the pump can sometimes gum up and if you blow it out, it frees whatever is blocking the flow. In a fit of desperation I disconnected a line, using my house key, and blew it clear. I say that to ask this; does the pump need primed? While it wouldn't start just now, the line did fill up and then run dry. Pulled a plug and no spark. Honestly, if it weren't a 10 1/2 hour drive back, this boat would have already been returned. But anything worth having is worth working for I guess. Any thoughts?

* * *Another Update* * *

Turns out I have fuel, just no fire. I reconnected the ground wire to the battery, as it should be, and the fuse no longer blows. I started another thread to address the lack of fire issue as the other issues seem to be a result of something else.
 
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Do you have VTS on your ski? If so unplug it and see if that solves the issue. They fail often and as a side effect they pop the MPEM fuse.


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Thanks for the fast reply. I'm a little new to the boat and I like to think I'm fairly mechanically inclined, but I can't figure out what a VTW is and where does it plug in?
 
VTS -variable trim system. I just realized you have a boat. I don't know them as well but the concept and theories are the same. On a ski the is two buttons and you can change the angle of the output nozzle.


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I was just reading on that. Sadly, I don't have any way of adjusting the trim. I did read that the 97's were supposed to have VTS as Sea Doo didn't get rid of them until after that year. I was honestly expecting it but don't have it.
 
It's late. Others with better specific knowledge will read this tomorrow.


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I truly hope someone has had this issue and resolved it. Thanks very much for trying to help. I'm really at my wits end with this one and really don't want to wait almost a month to get into the shop only to have the mechanics go wrist deep on me.
 
I knew I responded to this already. From the PWC section:

Stop putting in a bigger fuse, that will just create more problems. This sounds like the diode in the MPEM going bad. You have 3 options:

1. attempt to repair the diode (I don't know if the boat MPEM is the same as the PWC MPEM's tho)

2. Buy a used MPEM for big $$$$ as they are no longer made.

3. Contact [MENTION=41828]Minnetonka4me[/MENTION] for a conversion kit



Also, this is the PWC section. Hopefully [MENTION=31048]LouDoo[/MENTION] or [MENTION=43374]Coastiejoe[/MENTION] can move this to the boat section.


<edit> Another Forum has pictures of the fix. Just google: '95 Speedster MPEM Repair 5A
 
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Yes what USAF said...those are your options. Someone at some point hooked the battery up backwards or jumped it with a battery booster...

If you send it to me for a conversion I can bench test it just to make sure.
 
Thanks for the information guys. I was reading a lot of places that the MPEMs were bad if the fuse pops as soon as it is inserted, and was hoping that it was a dead short somewhere someone else might have had to deal with. I'm trying to get an account set up at the other place to view the pics. If the thing is already crapped out, no hurt in trying to fix it myself. Once I reinstall it and it catches fire, I will be looking for a conversion kit for sure.

Minnetonka4me, could you please send me a quote. If you aren't familiar, mine has the two 787s.

Thanks again guys.
 
Yeah...problem is its tough to isolate the wiring. You would have to send it to me to do it on the bench.

It better not burn up; I need the wire harness to do the conversion.
 
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