hey all, quick question about the 10 hour maintanence. It may be a stupid question but I have just reached the 10 hour mark and I am planning on taking my seadoo in for its maintanence however this weekend is a big weekend on the water for the cincinnati area and I was curious if running it much longer would cause an issue. I am also curious if opening up the throttle all the way would cause an issue before I go get the oil changed. I would take it in right now but then I might not have it for the weekend. any information or opinions would be appreciated thanks
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10 hour maintanence question
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timmyboy76
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aint a fan, of the 10hr b.s., think its a "money pitch" on dealer end, but then, the mpem WILL have it stored into memory, so future problems, will be read, and saw it wasnt done, and also, aint sure if the 10hr service DOES "broaden" the system to allow its full potential.
Best thing I say, contact dealer, see whats up, hopefully get-ur in and done for weekend, (is end of season, may not be busy) and roll out, if not ask about it, and at least, you got it "documented" about the service.
Best thing I say, contact dealer, see whats up, hopefully get-ur in and done for weekend, (is end of season, may not be busy) and roll out, if not ask about it, and at least, you got it "documented" about the service.
stripesace
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I've been told it will go into limp mode after 12 hours. The first oil change on your ski is crucial as it is on your car. Your rev limiter does go from 6900 RPM to 7300RPM (according to my Tac).
These are high rev motors so when somethings going to go wrong its not going to be pretty. Your not going to damage your motor by running it past the 10 hour. If it doesn't go into limp mode I'd say finsih the season and then take it in for service, but ask your dealer. I've got two honest service managers to ask questions to. My 10 hours came right before the 4th of July. The dealer told me to bring it in. He hooked it up to buds cleared the maintence and said call me on Sunday when you pull it out and I'll meet you at the shop to let you in and then we'll do the maintence.
These are high rev motors so when somethings going to go wrong its not going to be pretty. Your not going to damage your motor by running it past the 10 hour. If it doesn't go into limp mode I'd say finsih the season and then take it in for service, but ask your dealer. I've got two honest service managers to ask questions to. My 10 hours came right before the 4th of July. The dealer told me to bring it in. He hooked it up to buds cleared the maintence and said call me on Sunday when you pull it out and I'll meet you at the shop to let you in and then we'll do the maintence.
contractor4hire
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I purchased a 2009 RXTX and it is great! I would like to know if how to change oil and reset the service message on my 2009 RXTX. I would like to know if doing it myself will void any of the 5 year warranty? If someone knows an Honest dealer who I can ask questions please post their number, thanks!
I purchased a 2009 RXTX and it is great! I would like to know if how to change oil and reset the service message on my 2009 RXTX. I would like to know if doing it myself will void any of the 5 year warranty? If someone knows an Honest dealer who I can ask questions please post their number, thanks!
WaveKing-255RXTiS
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10 hour mark is important!
I just got mine back from the dealer. Brought it in Tuesday for the 10 hour service and told them I wanted it back for the weekend. They said it shouldn't be a problem. Everything was done and I'm ready to hit the water now.
Honestly, the 1st service is EXTREMELY important. Sorry, but I completely disagree with Timmyboy. That's a brand new engine out of the factory and it's still being broken in. Metal shavings and other crap in the oil will damage it if you don't get it done. I've owned two brand new toys (Sea-Doo and my ATV) and the first service is the MOST important for your engine.
Also, if you think about it, you've just spent a crapload of money on a great machine. Don't be a cheapskate and cheap out on maintaining it! You're not doing yourself nor your machine a favour by doing that. People who do that are the ones who bitch and complain about their PWC's (or any other toys/machines) leaving them stranded in the middle of nowhere on a trip!
I just got mine back from the dealer. Brought it in Tuesday for the 10 hour service and told them I wanted it back for the weekend. They said it shouldn't be a problem. Everything was done and I'm ready to hit the water now.
Honestly, the 1st service is EXTREMELY important. Sorry, but I completely disagree with Timmyboy. That's a brand new engine out of the factory and it's still being broken in. Metal shavings and other crap in the oil will damage it if you don't get it done. I've owned two brand new toys (Sea-Doo and my ATV) and the first service is the MOST important for your engine.
Also, if you think about it, you've just spent a crapload of money on a great machine. Don't be a cheapskate and cheap out on maintaining it! You're not doing yourself nor your machine a favour by doing that. People who do that are the ones who bitch and complain about their PWC's (or any other toys/machines) leaving them stranded in the middle of nowhere on a trip!
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To confirm, this is not true. I went to 13 hrs because I wanted to do the 10hr and winterization at the same time last year. The dealer said it was perfectly fine and that a few hours over/under doesn't hurt.
re: WaveKing's statement, I don't think there should be any 'metal shavings' in the oil. They aren't borring out these engines like something done in gradeschool shopclass... But the 10hr maint. is important because its required by BRP for many reasons which BRP will make sound very important.
timmyboy76
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by far, not saying it IS NOT important, but if it can be calculated into the purchase of the ski/in the warranty, then yes, do the service. But if not, then i'd hit up BRP to see, if "mymaintenence schedule" would be sufficiant, if anything down the road, was to happen, that it would not void my warranty..?
WaveKing-255RXTiS
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Well, metal shavings can and do happen more often than you think. Maybe with the manufacturing processes these days, its more rare, but other contaminants are present in the oil, such as protective chemicals/coatings that keep the engine conditioned before fluids (oil, etc.) are filled. Being a tool and die maker in the automotive industry, I know a few things. Mind you the parts are deburred and hardened before installation, there is STILL metal-to-metal (mechanical) contact between parts that cause them to wear down, especially during the initial break-in period when everything in settling in (hence the term "break-in").
Honeslty, if you really think about it, the engineers at BRP don't just randomly pick a number or a period in which you should do your initial maintenance. It is designed that way for a reason! If they REALLY wanted money from you, they would make it every 10 hours, but they don't... Its only once you do that and every so often after that.
Imagine never changing the oil in your car because you thought some guy at GM wanted to take your money? HAHA! Good luck with that engine. And I think that if you can't afford to do the first 10-hour service or any of the following services, then maybe you should either get a used machine that has had it done already or don't bother getting one. Like I said, it just annoys me a bit when people don't take care of their toys and then complain that it breaks.
Just my two cents. And for those of you who opt to do it yourselves, that's great! I honestly respect that and great on you that you're saving some money in the process. Personally, I don't know much about my Sea-Doo and I haven't the time for it. But despite that, I will still take good care of mine (maintenance, etc.) so that it'll last me for years to come!
Honeslty, if you really think about it, the engineers at BRP don't just randomly pick a number or a period in which you should do your initial maintenance. It is designed that way for a reason! If they REALLY wanted money from you, they would make it every 10 hours, but they don't... Its only once you do that and every so often after that.
Imagine never changing the oil in your car because you thought some guy at GM wanted to take your money? HAHA! Good luck with that engine. And I think that if you can't afford to do the first 10-hour service or any of the following services, then maybe you should either get a used machine that has had it done already or don't bother getting one. Like I said, it just annoys me a bit when people don't take care of their toys and then complain that it breaks.
Just my two cents. And for those of you who opt to do it yourselves, that's great! I honestly respect that and great on you that you're saving some money in the process. Personally, I don't know much about my Sea-Doo and I haven't the time for it. But despite that, I will still take good care of mine (maintenance, etc.) so that it'll last me for years to come!
Warranty...?
I have already been involved in the forum with members who made a mistake and either got work done on their new ski (one of them a 2009 boat) or did not service the motor in it's required time. Like the others, I do believe you have a leeway period of an hour or two. I think it would be hard hitting 10 hours perfectly, then taking it in.
I do warn that and think about it, if an insurance company or any other type sales where a dealer/salesman is made to pay bills incurred while in a certain time frame; if they can get out of paying, do you think they will? Heck ya they will!..........These new models store so much info and is pulled out when it is hooked up to the computer using the VCK (vehicle communication kit) and the B.U.D.S. (bombardier utility software). They can run a trend and see how many rpm's at any give time were put to the motor or how hard it was ridden...........so much to list. But, I would read your warranty info and do exactly.......and I mean exactly as it states. A dealer is not the one who pays for the insurance/warranty, it comes from BRP. The dealer will tell you what ever you want to know but it won't stand up in court. So, be smart, read it yourself, or you might get burned..........
I have already been involved in the forum with members who made a mistake and either got work done on their new ski (one of them a 2009 boat) or did not service the motor in it's required time. Like the others, I do believe you have a leeway period of an hour or two. I think it would be hard hitting 10 hours perfectly, then taking it in.
I do warn that and think about it, if an insurance company or any other type sales where a dealer/salesman is made to pay bills incurred while in a certain time frame; if they can get out of paying, do you think they will? Heck ya they will!..........These new models store so much info and is pulled out when it is hooked up to the computer using the VCK (vehicle communication kit) and the B.U.D.S. (bombardier utility software). They can run a trend and see how many rpm's at any give time were put to the motor or how hard it was ridden...........so much to list. But, I would read your warranty info and do exactly.......and I mean exactly as it states. A dealer is not the one who pays for the insurance/warranty, it comes from BRP. The dealer will tell you what ever you want to know but it won't stand up in court. So, be smart, read it yourself, or you might get burned..........
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